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September 17th 03, 12:17 PM
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French block airlift of British troops to Basra
French block airlift of British troops to Basra 16.09.2003 [06:41]
The French government has told an airline that it is not to ferry British troops to Basra, a ban that will be seen as reflecting Paris's opposition to the occupation of Iraq. Corsair, which has been chartered numerous times to transport UK forces around the world, pulled out of a contract to fly reinforcements to Basra at the weekend. About 1,400 more troops are being sent to Basra as part of an attempt to prevent the "strategic failure" predicted by Jack Straw, the Foreign Secretary, with a similar number expected to be announced within weeks. A Corsair Airbus A330 was chartered to fly troops of the Royal Green Jackets from Brize Norton, Oxon, but at the last moment the French transport ministry grounded the aircraft citing safety concerns. Transport ministry officials were reported yesterday as saying the move had nothing to do with safety but was a result of the intervention of the foreign ministry. The foreign ministry denied the report, saying there was "no political motive". But British defence officials appeared to confirm that the ban was political and not technical. "We have used them time and time again to fly troops into trouble spots," one said. "They have been everywhere for us. We always thought they were pretty robust." A Corsair spokesman said most of the flights undertaken for the MoD took troops to training exercises. For security and insurance reasons they rarely flew to war zones. "We did fly to Pristina during the Kosovo crisis, but only once it had been cleared for civil aviation." Basra is already open to civilian aircraft. Source: Telegraph.co.uk, UK 
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September 17th 03, 12:46 PM
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"Michael Petukhov" wrote in message m... French block airlift of British troops to Basra 16.09.2003 [06:41] Sooner or later there will need to be some serious payback for France and Germany. The French government has told an airline that it is not to ferry British troops to Basra, a ban that will be seen as reflecting Paris's opposition to the occupation of Iraq. Corsair, which has been chartered numerous times to transport UK forces around the world, pulled out of a contract to fly reinforcements to Basra at the weekend. About 1,400 more troops are being sent to Basra as part of an attempt to prevent the "strategic failure" predicted by Jack Straw, the Foreign Secretary, with a similar number expected to be announced within weeks. A Corsair Airbus A330 was chartered to fly troops of the Royal Green Jackets from Brize Norton, Oxon, but at the last moment the French transport ministry grounded the aircraft citing safety concerns. Transport ministry officials were reported yesterday as saying the move had nothing to do with safety but was a result of the intervention of the foreign ministry. The foreign ministry denied the report, saying there was "no political motive". But British defence officials appeared to confirm that the ban was political and not technical. "We have used them time and time again to fly troops into trouble spots," one said. "They have been everywhere for us. We always thought they were pretty robust." A Corsair spokesman said most of the flights undertaken for the MoD took troops to training exercises. For security and insurance reasons they rarely flew to war zones. "We did fly to Pristina during the Kosovo crisis, but only once it had been cleared for civil aviation." Basra is already open to civilian aircraft. Source: Telegraph.co.uk, UK
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September 17th 03, 02:48 PM
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YES, But US and Brits and others are yet paying a high toll for their
stuborness "Christians for Cheeseburgers." a écrit dans le message de news: ... "Michael Petukhov" wrote in message m... French block airlift of British troops to Basra 16.09.2003 [06:41] Sooner or later there will need to be some serious payback for France and Germany. The French government has told an airline that it is not to ferry British troops to Basra, a ban that will be seen as reflecting Paris's opposition to the occupation of Iraq. Corsair, which has been chartered numerous times to transport UK forces around the world, pulled out of a contract to fly reinforcements to Basra at the weekend. About 1,400 more troops are being sent to Basra as part of an attempt to prevent the "strategic failure" predicted by Jack Straw, the Foreign Secretary, with a similar number expected to be announced within weeks. A Corsair Airbus A330 was chartered to fly troops of the Royal Green Jackets from Brize Norton, Oxon, but at the last moment the French transport ministry grounded the aircraft citing safety concerns. Transport ministry officials were reported yesterday as saying the move had nothing to do with safety but was a result of the intervention of the foreign ministry. The foreign ministry denied the report, saying there was "no political motive". But British defence officials appeared to confirm that the ban was political and not technical. "We have used them time and time again to fly troops into trouble spots," one said. "They have been everywhere for us. We always thought they were pretty robust." A Corsair spokesman said most of the flights undertaken for the MoD took troops to training exercises. For security and insurance reasons they rarely flew to war zones. "We did fly to Pristina during the Kosovo crisis, but only once it had been cleared for civil aviation." Basra is already open to civilian aircraft. Source: Telegraph.co.uk, UK
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September 17th 03, 08:47 PM
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September 17th 03, 09:10 PM
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"Peter Kemp" peter_n_kempathotmaildotcom wrote in message ... On 17 Sep 2003 04:17:05 -0700, (Michael Petukhov) wrote: French block airlift of British troops to Basra 16.09.2003 [06:41] The French government has told an airline that it is not to ferry British troops to Basra, a ban that will be seen as reflecting Paris's opposition to the occupation of Iraq. Corsair, which has been chartered numerous times to transport UK forces around the world, pulled out of a contract to fly reinforcements to Basra at the weekend. Good planning by the French. Net effect of the move - Corsair loses the various UK charter contracts to another, probably non-French firm, and generates some anti French feeling in the UK. Oops. If the UK public were to boycott French products like the American People have, the French People would riot.
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September 17th 03, 10:56 PM
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Tarver Engineering wrote in message
... If the UK public were to boycott French products like the American People have, the French People would riot. I suspect the French people would look to hire someone to riot for them, probably one of their Arab terrorist allies. -- Scott -------- "the Arabs should remember that they invaded and occupied important parts of Europe hundreds of years before the Crusades wars. " Zuheir Abdallah-columnist for the London-based Arabic daily Al-Hayat http://www.memri.org/bin/latestnews.cgi?ID=SD55103
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#7
September 17th 03, 11:09 PM
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"tscottme" wrote in message ... Tarver Engineering wrote in message ... If the UK public were to boycott French products like the American People have, the French People would riot. I suspect the French people would look to hire someone to riot for them, probably one of their Arab terrorist allies. People without work might II Deuce, Chirac.
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#8
September 18th 03, 12:03 AM
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"NEMO ME IMPUNE" wrote in message ...
YES, But US and Brits and others are yet paying a high toll for their stuborness Much better to be a toll payer than a freeloader like France. When was the last time France paid its own "tolls"? That would have been about 1918, right? Brooks "Christians for Cheeseburgers." a écrit dans le message de news: ... "Michael Petukhov" wrote in message m... French block airlift of British troops to Basra 16.09.2003 [06:41] Sooner or later there will need to be some serious payback for France and Germany. The French government has told an airline that it is not to ferry British troops to Basra, a ban that will be seen as reflecting Paris's opposition to the occupation of Iraq. Corsair, which has been chartered numerous times to transport UK forces around the world, pulled out of a contract to fly reinforcements to Basra at the weekend. About 1,400 more troops are being sent to Basra as part of an attempt to prevent the "strategic failure" predicted by Jack Straw, the Foreign Secretary, with a similar number expected to be announced within weeks. A Corsair Airbus A330 was chartered to fly troops of the Royal Green Jackets from Brize Norton, Oxon, but at the last moment the French transport ministry grounded the aircraft citing safety concerns. Transport ministry officials were reported yesterday as saying the move had nothing to do with safety but was a result of the intervention of the foreign ministry. The foreign ministry denied the report, saying there was "no political motive". But British defence officials appeared to confirm that the ban was political and not technical. "We have used them time and time again to fly troops into trouble spots," one said. "They have been everywhere for us. We always thought they were pretty robust." A Corsair spokesman said most of the flights undertaken for the MoD took troops to training exercises. For security and insurance reasons they rarely flew to war zones. "We did fly to Pristina during the Kosovo crisis, but only once it had been cleared for civil aviation." Basra is already open to civilian aircraft. Source: Telegraph.co.uk, UK
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September 18th 03, 02:36 AM
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"Pooh Bear" wrote in message ... Tarver Engineering wrote: "Peter Kemp" peter_n_kempathotmaildotcom wrote in message ... On 17 Sep 2003 04:17:05 -0700, (Michael Petukhov) wrote: French block airlift of British troops to Basra 16.09.2003 [06:41] The French government has told an airline that it is not to ferry British troops to Basra, a ban that will be seen as reflecting Paris's opposition to the occupation of Iraq. Corsair, which has been chartered numerous times to transport UK forces around the world, pulled out of a contract to fly reinforcements to Basra at the weekend. Good planning by the French. Net effect of the move - Corsair loses the various UK charter contracts to another, probably non-French firm, and generates some anti French feeling in the UK. Oops. If the UK public were to boycott French products like the American People have, the French People would riot. If the French really want to irritate the UK they just get their farmers / truck drivers / fishermen / ATC / whatever to go on strike. If you're not familiar with the effect, I'd be glad to explain further. Is ther an odor?
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