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What is this sports pilot license about?
Hi Again,
I was noticing their have been a lot of posts on the usenet about this sports pilot license that doesn't even require a physical. What is the point of this? I think it is crazy from what I have read. It makes it sound like you all you need to do is show a drivers license and you can fly a lighweight? My dad was a pilot and owned a C172. About 12 years ago, I had gotten all my hours in except for the solo. My father sold the plane after it received hail damage. I finally have decided to go back and get my private pilots license. However, I am starting from scratch because even though something like a C172 is easy to fly, it is extremely important to go through all the training and learn how to fly properly. My personal goal is to get my Private Pilot's License and then go and get my instrument rating. However, it worries me that there may be people that are just waiting for the sports pilot certifcation in order to get their pilot by learning at home or however. I want a no fly zone declared over my house if that is the point of the sports pilot license. FF |
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"Frequent_Flyer" wrote in message
.com... I was noticing their have been a lot of posts on the usenet about this sports pilot license that doesn't even require a physical. What is the point of this? I think it is crazy from what I have read. It makes it sound like you all you need to do is show a drivers license and you can fly a lighweight? You obviously haven't read anything factual regarding the Sport Pilot certificate. Except maybe the part about not requiring a physical (and that's not even a sure thing). In fact, the Sport Pilot certificate will result in MORE pilots being required to obtain formal training and FAA certification than they do now. Pete |
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"Peter Duniho" wrote in message ... "Frequent_Flyer" wrote in message .com... I was noticing their have been a lot of posts on the usenet about this sports pilot license that doesn't even require a physical. What is the point of this? I think it is crazy from what I have read. It makes it sound like you all you need to do is show a drivers license and you can fly a lighweight? You obviously haven't read anything factual regarding the Sport Pilot certificate. Except maybe the part about not requiring a physical (and that's not even a sure thing). In fact, the Sport Pilot certificate will result in MORE pilots being required to obtain formal training and FAA certification than they do now. Pete There has been more ink spilled (figuratively speaking) over SP than over practically any other aspect of aviation regulation in history Good place to start on the Internet is http://www.sportpilot.org/ Then, get hold of a copy of the NPRM and give it a read. It's quite a mess - if you can make it all the way through you've done damn good . Finally, if you can get hold of a copy of the comments sent in during the comment period (there were thousands, I sent in 3 myself) you'll get a pretty good understanding of the pros and cons as seen by the UL/light aircraft community. Beyond that, there are newsgroups and Yahoo mailing lists galore with all kinds of stuff going on about SP. I can't even begin to name them all... Have fun, LS AC fun racer 503. |
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"Peter Duniho" wrote in message ... "Frequent_Flyer" wrote in message .com... I was noticing their have been a lot of posts on the usenet about this sports pilot license that doesn't even require a physical. What is the point of this? I think it is crazy from what I have read. It makes it sound like you all you need to do is show a drivers license and you can fly a lighweight? You obviously haven't read anything factual regarding the Sport Pilot certificate. Except maybe the part about not requiring a physical (and that's not even a sure thing). In fact, the Sport Pilot certificate will result in MORE pilots being required to obtain formal training and FAA certification than they do now. Pete Thank goodness. I admit I only read previous post through google groups and there was a lot of disparate information. I was just hoping their was bad information out there. I am sure a lot of information is very old also. FF |
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here is some info on it
Major Step Forward for Sport Pilot July 31, 2003 - The new sport pilot and light-sport aircraft (SP/LSA) categories passed a major milestone Thursday when FAA Administrator Marion Blakey announced at EAA AirVenture Oshkosh 2003 that the FAA had completed work on the final rule. The rulemaking package has now been forwarded to the Department of Transportation (DOT) for review. "This is a momentous step in the road to seeing sport pilot and light-sport aircraft become a reality," said EAA President Tom Poberezny. "We expect the rule will prove to be a major safety enhancement, establishing a safety framework for an existing, unregulated segment of aviation. "Likewise, we felt there was no better place than EAA AirVenture Oshkosh to announce this major step. As the aviation world gathers for this centennial of flight celebration, EAA is proud to have been deeply committed to this effort, which will open up personal flight to more people as it enters its second century." After approval by the DOT, the SP/LSA rule will become official upon publication in the Federal Register. The effective date of the rule will be announced at that time. FAA Administrator Blakey said, "This will serve the needs of aviation enthusiasts for many years to come. It's expected to greatly reduce the barriers for becoming a pilot, and for becoming an aircraft owner. I can assure you I'm going to work very hard with DOT as the rule continues to move forward." She also credited EAA for its contribution: "You have a tremendous champion in Tom Poberezny. He has worked long and hard on this. In fact, the first time I heard "sport pilot" was from Tom Poberezny. Thank you, EAA, for everything you've done." FAA Sport Pilot Team Manager Sue Gardner celebrated the Administrator's announcement, saying, "I'm exhilarated that the rule is through FAA. The Administrator's approval represents a major step in the rulemaking process. I know the community is disappointed that the rule isn't final already, but as we've said before, the rulemaking process is complex...and in the end that's good for users. We have a rule that FAA believes will be the best for the entire aviation community. Meanwhile, EAA continues to work closely with the FAA to ensure that all training and aircraft inspection infrastructure are in place to allow members to fully realize the benefits of this landmark rule once it becomes official. EAA has worked closely with aviation industry representatives, through the ASTM International standards-setting process, to establish light-sport aircraft manufacturing standards. The light-sport aircraft rules, which are being developed in conjunction with the pilot certification regulations created under sport pilot, are designed to ensure that all manufacturers uphold the consensus standards established by an industry/community/government committee administered by ASTM, an independent group renowned for establishing stringent standards for many industries. These important provisions ensure that each new light-sport airplane will be constructed within accepted design and quality assurance standards. Much of the ASTM standards effort is expected to be completed when FAA issues the final SP/LSA rule. After the final light-sport aircraft rules are published, the consensus standards can be adjusted, if necessary, to meet the specifications in the rules. -- Have a good day and stay out of the trees! See ya on Sport Aircraft group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Sport_Aircraft/ Private Pilot License in 10 days http://www.perfectplanes.com/10day.html |
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What is the point of this? I think it is crazy from what I have read. It makes it sound like you all you need to do is show a drivers license and you can fly a lighweight? As it stands at present, you don't even have to show a license to fly an ultralight, so the sport license would be a step up in that respect. Landing at Plum Island one time, I was cut off by an ultralight, or so it seemed to us--actually, he landed on the grass beside the runway. My instructor went ballistic: "I wish they'd give them licenses, so they could take them away!" That's essentially what's being proposed. There is a provision that you can fly a plane up to 12xx pounds under the proposed sport license. This would be a radcial change for the drivers of Cubs and lesser aircraft of 1940s vintage, since most of these (J-3s, PA-11s, T-craft, Champs) would qualify. It's not merely "show a license" and go. You also self-certify that you are physically able to do the flying--which of course is what you do every time you use your private pilot certificate. There are times when I don't fly, when I have a cold, and once when I ground-looped on takeoff and so scared myself that I didn't think I was safe. These self-limitations over-rode the fact that I had a 3rd class medical, and they would continue to do so if I went the sport-pilot route and had no medical. all the best -- Dan Ford email: www.danford.net/letters.htm#9 see the Warbird's Forum at http://www.danford.net/index.htm Vietnam | Flying Tigers | Pacific War | Brewster Buffalo | Piper Cub |
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estimation, most of the participation in the new rule will be persons like myself who can't pass the class III medical (or couldn't unless they lied like crazy on the form) but are perfectly able to safely pilot a light aircraft. There are a LOT of us flying around out there, some with fictitious medicals and the rest with, well, simply none at all . That's what I meant about self-certification. I didn't mean that you fill out a form before every flight, or even once a year, only that you assess your condition every time you fly, just as you assess the weather. On the other points, thanks for the clarification. all the best -- Dan Ford email: www.danford.net/letters.htm#9 see the Warbird's Forum at www.warbirdforum.com and the Piper Cub Forum at www.pipercubforum.com |
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