More Katrina

"TL" wrote:


The levee breach and the resulting flooding of New Orleans is a sad
testament to man's arrogance in trying to re-engineer nature.

Yes, the entire area epitomizes some of humanities worst ideas WRT
controlling its environment. Channelize the Mississippi? What folly.

Meanwhile, president Bush is at a Naval Air Station in Colorado making
a speech in which he compares his administration's politically
motivated hegemony in Iraq with WW2. "Once again we will not rest
until victory is America's and our freedom is secure." Any American
who buys in to such bull**** is a ****ing idiot.

Whom do you expect to influence by posting such words in a peaceful
newsgroup? My feelings WRT Mr. Bush, notwithstanding, I find them
offensive, as I'm sure most others do. As Denny points out, there are
ng's where such things may be appropriate, but not here.

--
Dan
C172RG at BFM

"N93332" wrote in message
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"Dan Luke" wrote in message
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Local Channel 5 is flying its Robinson 44 helicopter up and down the
coast, sending back video.

Holy ****.

This is far worse than we were being told even this morning. Whole
sections of Biloxi are leveled. Multi-story casinos have been driven all
the way across Hwy 90 and into neighborhoods. It looks like the city has
been carpet bombed.

Hancock County, to the west of Biloxi, is expected to be *worse*! How
that could be possible, I do not know.

And New Orleans is leaking and being looted.

This is awful beyond the wildest nightmare.

And now Dubya says he's going to cut his vacation short to go and view the
damage. That's all they need, a TFR to shut down all the helicopter rescue
operations...


Hey Knee-Jerk. There is already 3 TFRs in the area and when has a President
not visited a disaster site?

"Morgans" wrote in message
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IMHO, people, in such dire situations, EXPECT the president
to show concern by making an appearance, be he Democrat,
or Republican. It is tradition, and expected. It will be a
quick trip, in and out.

I personally don't believe that "tradition" has priority in an
emergency situation.

Not to show would be like your dad not coming to see you
in the hospital. Not much class.

No, I think a more appropriate analogy would be your dad
not being allowed in the operating room during surgery,
when he would be in the way. The appropriate time for
your dad to visit is when you are recuperating, and the
emergency is over.

Same with the President, IMO.

But that's just my opinion.
Being Canadian, my opinion's probably wrong anyway. g

Jim in NC

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dot ca

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"Gig 601XL Builder" wr.giacona@coxDOTnet wrote in message
news:W1jRe.6898$7f5.2704@okepread01...
And now Dubya says he's going to cut his vacation short to go and view
the damage. That's all they need, a TFR to shut down all the helicopter
rescue operations...


Hey Knee-Jerk. There is already 3 TFRs in the area and when has a
President not visited a disaster site?

If you read my response, you'll note that I made the mistake of
misunderstanding the NBC news report saying that Mr. Bush was going from his
vacation in Texas directly to the hurricane damage area. After posting that
response, I checked some news websites to find out that Mr. Bush isn't going
right away.

I do expect a president of either party to make a visit, just not
'immediately'. I apologize for the previous response...

-Greg B.

Darrel Toepfer wrote:

4 planes busted his left coast TFR on Tuesday... News said nobody was
arrested.

Doesn't mean much. You don't get arrested for violation of a TFR (though there
are rumblings in Congress about changing this with respect to the DC ADIZ) --
you get violated by the FAA. Any idea whether the FAA acted on these?

George Patterson
Give a person a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a person to
use the Internet and he won't bother you for weeks.

Listening to CNN, they are commenting on how Bush-1 was criticized for
not going to Florida following Andrew.
It seems like W's handlers are working hard to not let their boy be
acquised of making the same mistake.
The parallels are amusing.
If it's not one thing (Iraq) it's another (hurricane damage).
To borrow (loosely) from GM, "This is not your daddy's Oldsmobile."
:-))

I heard that he cut it short and was returning to DC, not view the area

Regards, Ross
C-172F 180HP
KSWI


Dan Luke wrote:
"N93332" wrote:


And now Dubya says he's going to cut his vacation short to go and view
the damage. That's all they need, a TFR to shut down all the
helicopter rescue operations...


Would you expect the President *not* to come down to the scene of a
disaster of this magnitude?

"Sammy" wrote in message .. .
This is awful beyond the wildest nightmare.

And now Dubya says he's going to cut his vacation short to go and view the
damage. That's all they need, a TFR to shut down all the helicopter rescue
operations...


Are you one of those people who likes to take cheap shots at our President
just because you don't like his policies ? Every major news outlet is
reporting that the President is returning to Washington. Even cnn.com says
"Bush was expected to visit the region affected by Katrina, but details on
that trip were in flux as the White House worked to make sure the president
would not disrupt response efforts."

"john smith" wrote in message . ..
Listening to CNN, they are commenting on how Bush-1 was criticized for not going to Florida following Andrew.
It seems like W's handlers are working hard to not let their boy be acquised of making the same mistake.
The parallels are amusing.
If it's not one thing (Iraq) it's another (hurricane damage).
To borrow (loosely) from GM, "This is not your daddy's Oldsmobile."
:-))

oh well, back to piloting...

I would be pretty cool to buzz the beach with a 747 (Bush did it today)

back OT

I can't imagine what those folks on the ground thought; look, there goes AF1, I wonder if he has any fresh water? Is
that thing air-conditioned? Maybe they'll drop some food?

("john smith" wrote)
Listening to CNN, they are commenting on how Bush-1 was criticized for not
going to Florida following Andrew.
It seems like W's handlers are working hard to not let their boy be
acquised of making the same mistake.


(ramblings...)

Remember the (1990's) Clinton flap over FEMA aid not going to Republican
stronghold disaster areas?

Democratic areas would have a small hailstorm roll through their area, and
suddenly, Federal Disaster Relief money would start raining down from the
heavens. Republican districts would need an F-5 tornado parking itself over
their town, for a week, before they were allowed to apply for help from
Washington. :-)

I'm wondering why the levees broke?? Grand Forks, ND (1997) sure, they got
nailed by floodwaters, then fire. Tough break. N.O. (2005) ...your city is
below sea level people!! Those levees should have been ...oh, never mind.
:-(

Salt Lake City (1999) medium size tornado makes a direct hit on Downtown -
No Looting.

People across the city stopped what they were doing and cleaned up the
mess - until the job was done - then resumed what they were doing. No
comparing the two natural disasters, but no comparing the preparedness of
the two local governments, and reaction of the citizens either.

CBS news (Tuesday) said people were looting out of a need to survive. It had
only been 18 hours folks!! CBS news is banned from this house for the rest
of the year.

GTW, Margene knows I mean business with my TV news station bans - I've been
"double secret probation" banning different outlets for over a decade. ABC
(A for arrogant) news was banned from our home for 6 months, after their
9-11 carping about W 'hiding' and not being back in Washington that first
afternoon. I didn't care if it was Clinton, Carter, Reagan, Ford, Nixon or W
....I wanted my President's butt up in Air Force One that day!!

Our local FOX outlet gets turned off, mid story, at least twice a week.

W needs to make a Marine One fly-over - that's it. Back in Washington he
needs to "go" up to The Hill and meet in the offices of the Senators and
Congresspeople of that region - photo ops all around are ok. Then he needs
to have them all over for a morning prayer breakfast and more photo ops in
the White House.

Send First Lady Laura Bush to the Gulf Coast...and Cheney, if anyone knows
where he is. He can tour the damaged oil rigs.

'43' should hold off making his entrance for 3 more days.


Montblack