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Old September 2nd 05, 05:31 PM
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Default PPL Flight Expenses Legal?

On Tuesday I must make a trip to a customer site. It is about a 3 hour
drive, but I can make the trip by flying myself in 36 minutes. My company
pays for mileage if by car, and no policy setup for renting a plane and
flying myself.

Let's assume my company will pay the cost of plane rental... If I were to
rent a plane and fly to the local airport with a co-worker, would this be
legal under the FAR's? As has been said before, there is not a real clear
cut answer from what I can tell. I think I would be ok by the FAR's...
Thoughts?

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Mike Flyin'8
PP-ASEL
Temecula, CA
http://flying.4alexanders.com
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Old September 2nd 05, 05:50 PM
Robert M. Gary
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If its "incidental" to your employement you should be ok.

-Robert, CFI

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Old September 2nd 05, 05:50 PM
Andre
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don't know where you live but when I looked into this in Canada, I can rent
a plane, fly co-workers and charge back reasonable costs to the company, as
long as I don't get paid to fly.

One place I worked said that they would pay for the cost of the plane as
long as it did not cost more then the cost of driving.

wrote in message
...
On Tuesday I must make a trip to a customer site. It is about a 3 hour
drive, but I can make the trip by flying myself in 36 minutes. My company
pays for mileage if by car, and no policy setup for renting a plane and
flying myself.

Let's assume my company will pay the cost of plane rental... If I were to
rent a plane and fly to the local airport with a co-worker, would this be
legal under the FAR's? As has been said before, there is not a real clear
cut answer from what I can tell. I think I would be ok by the FAR's...
Thoughts?

--
Mike Flyin'8
PP-ASEL
Temecula, CA
http://flying.4alexanders.com



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Old September 2nd 05, 06:20 PM
Mike Rapoport
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Yes it is legal.

Mike
MU-2

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On Tuesday I must make a trip to a customer site. It is about a 3 hour
drive, but I can make the trip by flying myself in 36 minutes. My company
pays for mileage if by car, and no policy setup for renting a plane and
flying myself.

Let's assume my company will pay the cost of plane rental... If I were to
rent a plane and fly to the local airport with a co-worker, would this be
legal under the FAR's? As has been said before, there is not a real clear
cut answer from what I can tell. I think I would be ok by the FAR's...
Thoughts?

--
Mike Flyin'8
PP-ASEL
Temecula, CA
http://flying.4alexanders.com



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Old September 2nd 05, 07:53 PM
BTIZ
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incidental to employment.. but rather then the company renting the plane,
work out a cost of xx cents per mile for personal aircraft use, same idea as
you would get for personal car use that gets reimbursed.

That way the company is not liable for the aircraft, or you if something
happens, other than what they would be responsible for in your own car.

And no one has questions. at one time the going rate was about $1/mile
traveled.

BT

wrote in message
...
On Tuesday I must make a trip to a customer site. It is about a 3 hour
drive, but I can make the trip by flying myself in 36 minutes. My company
pays for mileage if by car, and no policy setup for renting a plane and
flying myself.

Let's assume my company will pay the cost of plane rental... If I were to
rent a plane and fly to the local airport with a co-worker, would this be
legal under the FAR's? As has been said before, there is not a real clear
cut answer from what I can tell. I think I would be ok by the FAR's...
Thoughts?

--
Mike Flyin'8
PP-ASEL
Temecula, CA
http://flying.4alexanders.com



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Old September 2nd 05, 08:37 PM
OtisWinslow
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If you're flying on company business and something happens the
company will be named in the lawsuit.


"BTIZ" wrote in message
news:zc1Se.7653$ct5.5834@fed1read04...
incidental to employment.. but rather then the company renting the plane,
work out a cost of xx cents per mile for personal aircraft use, same idea
as you would get for personal car use that gets reimbursed.

That way the company is not liable for the aircraft, or you if something
happens, other than what they would be responsible for in your own car.

And no one has questions. at one time the going rate was about $1/mile
traveled.

BT

wrote in message
...
On Tuesday I must make a trip to a customer site. It is about a 3 hour
drive, but I can make the trip by flying myself in 36 minutes. My
company
pays for mileage if by car, and no policy setup for renting a plane and
flying myself.

Let's assume my company will pay the cost of plane rental... If I were
to
rent a plane and fly to the local airport with a co-worker, would this be
legal under the FAR's? As has been said before, there is not a real
clear
cut answer from what I can tell. I think I would be ok by the FAR's...
Thoughts?

--
Mike Flyin'8
PP-ASEL
Temecula, CA
http://flying.4alexanders.com





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Old September 2nd 05, 09:07 PM
BTIZ
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don't doubt that... same as if my company was paying me to use my car for
the trip..
no difference.. but being named.. and loosing in court are far between..
BT

"OtisWinslow" wrote in message
. ..
If you're flying on company business and something happens the
company will be named in the lawsuit.


"BTIZ" wrote in message
news:zc1Se.7653$ct5.5834@fed1read04...
incidental to employment.. but rather then the company renting the plane,
work out a cost of xx cents per mile for personal aircraft use, same idea
as you would get for personal car use that gets reimbursed.

That way the company is not liable for the aircraft, or you if something
happens, other than what they would be responsible for in your own car.

And no one has questions. at one time the going rate was about $1/mile
traveled.

BT

wrote in message
...
On Tuesday I must make a trip to a customer site. It is about a 3 hour
drive, but I can make the trip by flying myself in 36 minutes. My
company
pays for mileage if by car, and no policy setup for renting a plane and
flying myself.

Let's assume my company will pay the cost of plane rental... If I were
to
rent a plane and fly to the local airport with a co-worker, would this
be
legal under the FAR's? As has been said before, there is not a real
clear
cut answer from what I can tell. I think I would be ok by the FAR's...
Thoughts?

--
Mike Flyin'8
PP-ASEL
Temecula, CA
http://flying.4alexanders.com







  #8  
Old September 2nd 05, 10:08 PM
Robert M. Gary
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"incidental to employment.. but rather then the company renting the
plane,
work out a cost of xx cents per mile for personal aircraft use, same
idea as
you would get for personal car use that gets reimbursed. "

That sounds like a stretch. I may not be an attorney but I've taken a
hell of a lot of business law classes and I would be HIGHLY surprised
if any court found there it be a structural difference between the two
methods.

-Robert

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Old September 3rd 05, 01:11 AM
BTIZ
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some companies.. including the federal gov't, already have in a "mileage
allowance" to reimburse employees for using their personal desired mode of
transportation.

some FBO's would not rent to a company, if the company has no qualified
commercial rated pilot. But will rent to a pvt pilot already one of their
customers.

BT

"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
oups.com...
"incidental to employment.. but rather then the company renting the
plane,
work out a cost of xx cents per mile for personal aircraft use, same
idea as
you would get for personal car use that gets reimbursed. "

That sounds like a stretch. I may not be an attorney but I've taken a
hell of a lot of business law classes and I would be HIGHLY surprised
if any court found there it be a structural difference between the two
methods.

-Robert



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Old September 3rd 05, 01:55 AM
kontiki
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Yes.

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On Tuesday I must make a trip to a customer site. It is about a 3 hour
drive, but I can make the trip by flying myself in 36 minutes. My company
pays for mileage if by car, and no policy setup for renting a plane and
flying myself.

Let's assume my company will pay the cost of plane rental... If I were to
rent a plane and fly to the local airport with a co-worker, would this be
legal under the FAR's? As has been said before, there is not a real clear
cut answer from what I can tell. I think I would be ok by the FAR's...
Thoughts?


 




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