Pilot Training Contract

Scenic Airlines, Vision Airlines, Air Vegas (closed?) all at KVGT, Las Vegas
NV
Flying Twin Otters, Beech 99s, etc..

BT

"aluckyguess" wrote in message
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How do you find out about these programs? Sounds interesting.
"BTIZ" wrote in message
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if you loose??

If I were a betting man.. I would say you WILL loose..

it would be better to complete the training.. work the required servitude
off.. and then quit..

they are protecting their investment.. that you get training.. and then
go work for someone else..

that is the standard contract around here.. with two small "commuter"
Ditch Running airlines..

They provide training, type certificates.. and you fly for them for a
year.. or pay them $5000 (was the last going rate)

BT

"Bravo8500" wrote in message
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How much would you guess legal fees would be if I lose - the contract
provides that they can sue for them.

You see that a lot in truck driving schools/company's had a friend that got
sick during a long haul job just after truck driving school went to the
hospital they kept him for 6 weeks he know has to pay for his truck driving
training, medical bills ect because of 30 day's of job abandonment was not
ann employee for 90 day for medical to kick in. It will cost him more in
attorneys fees than it would cost just to pay for the truck driving
training. I think he worked for Werner Trucking


"BTIZ" wrote in message
news:Eh3Ad.59734$QR1.19997@fed1read04...
if you loose??

If I were a betting man.. I would say you WILL loose..

it would be better to complete the training.. work the required servitude
off.. and then quit..

they are protecting their investment.. that you get training.. and then go
work for someone else..

that is the standard contract around here.. with two small "commuter"
Ditch
Running airlines..

They provide training, type certificates.. and you fly for them for a
year..
or pay them $5000 (was the last going rate)

BT

"Bravo8500" wrote in message
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How much would you guess legal fees would be if I lose - the contract
provides that they can sue for them.

"Bravo8500" wrote in message
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How much would you guess legal fees would be if I lose - the contract
provides that they can sue for them.


Civil Judgments, Can be long and costly.

i expect everybody is right about your chances of getting out of the
contract. you have not said but i expect it's written as an
employment OR training contract . if you decide to walk it then the
companys lawyers will try to make a guess at how much you're worth
before they stack the billing. if they give you a discovery demand
that looks like the new york phone directory then they've decided
you've got some money and 3 senior lawyers and several helpers will
show up at the first disposition, happily talking about baseball and
such.
then again....are you familiar with the term "judgment-proof"?

dan

"houstondan" wrote in message
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i expect everybody is right about your chances of getting out of the
contract. you have not said but i expect it's written as an
employment OR training contract . if you decide to walk it then the
companys lawyers will try to make a guess at how much you're worth
before they stack the billing. if they give you a discovery demand
that looks like the new york phone directory then they've decided
you've got some money and 3 senior lawyers and several helpers will
show up at the first disposition, happily talking about baseball and
such.
then again....are you familiar with the term "judgment-proof"?

dan


Yep, Dan has it right! but he forgot to tell you that Discovery can be very
very costly also lots of your time sitting in a gathering documents
responding with 3 or more copy's of every thing. If they go after you at the
federal level then the venue can be held very far away at your districts
court house or the district the contract was signed in then you have travel
expenses. If you don't show they get a default for full amount + their
attorney fees. If their attorneys on the east coast and you are on the west
coast each disposition if the attorneys come to you can lead to the
thousands of dollars because attorneys get paid from portal to portal and do
you think they travel coach? and sleep in a motel 8? don't think so! If you
signed a contract abide by it or pay the contract off very simple.

Work out a payment plan before your costs soar to the point that you are
broke until you die.

Bravo8500 wrote:

I signed a training contract with a small 121 airline as first officer
(19 pax turbo prop). I left just before training was finished (after my
first round of IOE) because I felt the job was too stressful for me to
accomplish safely, and that's what I told them when I left. They want
to sue me now for breach of contract, saying I left voluntarily. I'm
thinking it's a conflict of interest for them to create financial
pressure on a pilot to remain in a position against his best judgment.
What if I couldn't afford to pay the money and stayed, and caused an
accident? I hope you don't mind this legal-type question. Any advice?
Bravo8500

You signed a financial obligation for some very pricey training. You
have already left the position. You rightfully owe the contracting
company some $$$.

You have quite a bit of marketable experience that you can take and use
to make good on a minimum wage job at a competing carrier

And.. you DID leave voluntarily.

What kind of accident would you have planned on causing (considering all
the other links in the system that are supposed to be there to protect
you and crew and passengers)?

Dave

Bravo8500 wrote:
I signed a training contract with a small 121 airline as first officer
(19 pax turbo prop). I left just before training was finished (after my
first round of IOE) because I felt the job was too stressful for me to
accomplish safely, and that's what I told them when I left. They want
to sue me now for breach of contract, saying I left voluntarily. I'm
thinking it's a conflict of interest for them to create financial
pressure on a pilot to remain in a position against his best judgment.
What if I couldn't afford to pay the money and stayed, and caused an
accident? I hope you don't mind this legal-type question. Any advice?
Bravo8500