Flying IFR with Garmins

I don't remember the exact verbiage of the regulation, but you have to
have appropriate radios for the navigation signals being used. Meaning,
if you don't have an IFR approved GPS, you don't have appropriate
equipment to use for navigation using GPS. You would have to either
have a VOR based R-NAV system, or file direct via VORs, depending on
your altitude and the type of VORs.

Jeff wrote:

how are you going to get to your destination if filing direct?




Ron Rosenfeld wrote:


On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 16:01:50 -0700, Jeff wrote:


because you cannot go direct with a hand held GPS, You can only file /G
with an IFR certified GPS

Where does it say that you have to file /G in order to go direct?

Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)

On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 23:42:19 -0700, Jeff wrote:

how are you going to get to your destination if filing direct?

sigh I guess you've not been flying long. Folk used to fly direct long
before GPS.

There are a number of ways of navigating direct to a fix, using an HSI/RMI
and DME , a TACAN, or a VOR and DME. In fact, any one who carries an E6-B
in his shirt pocket could go direct to a fix using the above reference
navigation instruments.

The technique is found in the USAF instrument flight manual and has been
taught there for many years.


Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)

Jeff wrote:
how are you going to get to your destination if filing direct?


Use google groups to search for "ham sandwich" in this newsgroup.

Dave

Ron Rosenfeld wrote:


On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 16:01:50 -0700, Jeff wrote:


because you cannot go direct with a hand held GPS, You can only file /G
with an IFR certified GPS

Where does it say that you have to file /G in order to go direct?

Whoo hoo, here we go again! The short answer is you can fly direct to your
destination IFR using dead reckoning or pilotage from ATC. As you go, use
your handheld GPS to monitor the accuracy of your your progress.

Nothing says you have to use a radio to fly IFR. The requirement is a
performance standard, not an equipment standard. You are to stay on the
cleared route. How you do it is not regulated. You could navigate with a
ham sandwich and no one would care as long as you stayed on your route.
Just be sure to file "/H".

"Jeff" wrote in message
...
how are you going to get to your destination if filing direct?




Ron Rosenfeld wrote:

On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 16:01:50 -0700, Jeff wrote:

because you cannot go direct with a hand held GPS, You can only file /G
with an IFR certified GPS

Where does it say that you have to file /G in order to go direct?

Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)

I was wondering where that sandwich was.


So if i have no VOR, ADF or E6B, but i do have a G430, what is my suffix
code (with encoding altimiter) ?

SK

"Stuart King" wrote in message
.com...
I was wondering where that sandwich was.


So if i have no VOR, ADF or E6B, but i do have a G430, what is my suffix
code (with encoding altimiter) ?

/G

On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 22:22:06 GMT, "Stuart King"
wrote:

So if i have no VOR, ADF or E6B, but i do have a G430, what is my suffix
code (with encoding altimiter) ?

In the US, is the G430 now certified as sole navigation source in the a/c
(IFR)?


Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)

(Robert M. Gary) wrote in message . com...
I just recently decided to buy our first Garmin GPS (296). I had not
in the past because they were so far behind on providing terrain. They
fixed that with the 296. However, the one outstanding item missing on
the 296 are airways.

*** And on the 430/530 as other folks have mentioned. But I understand
that some serious upgrades are coming up for these boxes this year. Reading
the proposed price tags suggests to me: "New CPU board". I'm told that these
boxes have embedded 386-class processors - computers have come a long way
since then. I wonder if airways might make it into the updated stuff?

- Jerry Kaidor ( )

Ron Rosenfeld wrote:

On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 22:22:06 GMT, "Stuart King"
wrote:

So if i have no VOR, ADF or E6B, but i do have a G430, what is my suffix
code (with encoding altimiter) ?

In the US, is the G430 now certified as sole navigation source in the a/c
(IFR)?

The 430/530 carry a VOR.

- Andrew

Jerry Kaidor wrote:


*** And on the 430/530 as other folks have mentioned. But I understand
that some serious upgrades are coming up for these boxes this year.
Reading
the proposed price tags suggests to me: "New CPU board".

Where can one find information on these [pending] upgrades?

- Andrew