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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote: "Douglas Berry" wrote in message ... Your refusla to see reality. My refusal to see reality? I've been explaining the reality to you! Has it ever occurred to you that "explaining" just might be more than repeating the same flat statements over and over again, with minor variations? Your basic point, from every post I've seen, is it's impossible because it's impossible--or that some unnamed source says it can't exist. |
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In article .net,
"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote: "Douglas Berry" wrote in message ... Can the sheep give informed consenst, either by signing its name or by making a mark witnessed by a court officicial attesting that it understands the obligations of marriage. Go look up the word "consent." To be married one must be a consensting adult. Not if I choose to define it otherwise. You can not be forced to marry. You have to have either the legal status to sign a contract, or have permission from a guardian and convince a court official that this is what you really want. Sheep fail on both counts. Now, I know this is difficult dfor you, but we are discussing relations because *adult humans*. No sheep. No 4 year olds. No corpses. Living people who can give informed consenst in a legally recognized manner. Is it only homosexuals that have the right to redefine marriage to their liking? How about orthodox Muslims? What about their polygamy? Right there in their holy book, with as much evidence supporting it as the bible. |
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"Howard Berkowitz" wrote in message ... Has it ever occurred to you that "explaining" just might be more than repeating the same flat statements over and over again, with minor variations? It isn't. Your basic point, from every post I've seen, is it's impossible because it's impossible--or that some unnamed source says it can't exist. I've posted nothing like that. |
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Lo, many moons past, on Tue, 09 Mar 2004 04:00:03 GMT, a stranger
called by some "Steven P. McNicoll" came forth and told this tale in us.military.army "Douglas Berry" wrote in message .. . Your refusal to see reality. My refusal to see reality? I've been explaining the reality to you! Not really. You've been repeatl\ing the same bloody statement over and over. You snipped this: Want to present an argument? Fine. *Why* does marriage require the opposite genders? Give me concrete reasons. Well? -- Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail WE *ARE* UMA Lemmings 404 Local |
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In article ,
Douglas Berry wrote: Your refusal to see reality. My refusal to see reality? I've been explaining the reality to you! Not really. You've been repeatl\ing the same bloody statement over and over. You snipped this: Want to present an argument? Fine. *Why* does marriage require the opposite genders? Give me concrete reasons. Well? If you're going to demand others answer your questions; why not you answer questions asked of you?? --Mike |
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On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 18:50:17 -0500, Howard Berkowitz wrote:
In article , wrote: On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 19:39:28 -0500, Howard Berkowitz wrote: In article , wrote: No. it does not. Homosexuals are not recognized in the Constitution, and no "same sex" "marriages exit. With the exception of voting rights for men, where did the original Constitution say anything about sex or gender? Following your logic, since I am quite confident the Constitution is silent on heterosexuality, there's no Constitutional basis for marriage. My point is that there is no recognition of homosexuality at all. Al Minyard Nice change of subject. It doesn't recognize sexuality of any type. By your logic, there's no recognition of heterosexual marriage -- or any other type of marriage. Following your interesting logic, there's no recognition of Klinefelter's syndrome, 5-alpha reductase deficiency with failure of Mullerian development, prostatic cancer, ectopic pregnancy, heterosexuality, asexuality, bisexuality, homosexuality, hyperemesis gravidarum, gamete in-vitro transfer, the missionary position or any other position, masturbation, androgens, mineralocorticoids, estrogens, progestins, etc. All of these, I take it, are prohibited. Homosexuality is a choice, like becoming a murderer. There is nothing in the Constitution about murderers, either (except for the bit about "cruel and unusual punishment). Al Minyard |
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On Mon, 08 Mar 2004 18:26:09 GMT, "Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:
"Larry Kessler" wrote in message .. . *AS*WE*DEFINE*IT* yes, it does. Now you're catching on! The point of this is that marriage is a concept defined by humans and subject to redefinition from time to time. Really? Okay, I want to marry a sheep. There. It's done. Marriage now includes unions of humans and animals. Good Lord, that means that the Aussies "waltzing matildas" are....no, I refuse to go there :-) Al Minyard |
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On Tue, 09 Mar 2004 11:23:11 -0500, Howard Berkowitz wrote:
In article .net, "Steven P. McNicoll" wrote: "Douglas Berry" wrote in message ... Your refusla to see reality. My refusal to see reality? I've been explaining the reality to you! Has it ever occurred to you that "explaining" just might be more than repeating the same flat statements over and over again, with minor variations? Your basic point, from every post I've seen, is it's impossible because it's impossible--or that some unnamed source says it can't exist. California law (for one) says that it does not exist. Al Minyard |
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