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Lieberman calls on Rumsfeld to resign
"John P. Mullen" wrote:
:Jack Linthicum wrote: : : Although Lieberman may or may not have called for Rumsfeld to step down : in 2003 in May of 2004, in the pages of the Wall Street Journal he : wrote: : : "Most Democrats and Republicans, including President Bush and Sen. : Kerry, agree that we must successfully finish what we have started in : Iraq. Now is the time for all who share that goal to make our agreement : publicly clear, to stress what unites us. Many argue that we can only : rectify the wrongs done in the Iraqi prisons if Donald Rumsfeld : resigns. I disagree. Unless there is clear evidence connecting him to : the wrongdoing, it is neither sensible nor fair to force the : resignation of the secretary of defense, who clearly retains the : confidence of the commander in chief, in the midst of a war. I have yet : to see such evidence. Secretary Rumsfeld's removal would delight : foreign and domestic opponents of America's presence in Iraq. " : :Well, I don't see him winning. Of course you don't. That's because you're a knee-jerk Left Wing Democrat, John. Reality just doesn't intrude for your sort. :Blaming Lamont for his website crashing is, to say the least, uncool and :not the behavior one would expect of a seasoned legislator. Last I :heard, he hasn't apologized, either. Last I heard, both State officials and the FBI were still investigating. Needless to say, Lamont's website never got attacked. :He's not yet on the ticket. I hear his is doing OK with the signatures, :getting about 80% valid, but there is still the matter of the petition :circulaters. They must be registered voters in Connecticut. That will :be harder to check, but if he used out of state help, he probably won't :make the cut. And do you have ANY reason to believe that to be the case? Of course not. Just more 'wishing hard'. :And, his recent public statements don't seem to be helping. According :to the article below, he has gone from leading Lamont by 10 points to a :statistical tie in just one week. Varies by poll, as always. When the typical error on such polls is 3%-5%, this isn't exactly meaningful. But you will keep trying to 'wish hard'... -- "Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar territory." --G. Behn |
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Lieberman calls on Rumsfeld to resign , Now hold your Breath
And when Rummy resigns , Let go . Fool .
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Lieberman plays the Rove line on a talk TV show
Leadfoot wrote: One, it's a little late and the timing is a little suspicious. Two, Joe might need a new job and he would be a leading candidate to replace Rumsfeld http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060821/...nate_lieberman Sen. Joe Lieberman, attacked by fellow Democrats as being too close to the White House on the Iraq War, on Sunday called on Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld to resign but said the United States cannot "walk away" from the Iraqis. Lieberman, the one-time Democratic vice presidential candidate, is running as an independent in his bid for a fourth term since losing the Democratic nomination to newcomer Ned Lamont, who harnessed voters' anger against the war in Iraq. Lieberman, an early supporter of the Iraq war, said he had called for Rumsfeld to step down in 2003. "With all respect to Don Rumsfeld, who has done a grueling job for six years, we would benefit from new leadership to work with our military in Iraq," he said on CBS' "Face the Nation." Lieberman said the Bush administration should have sent more troops into Iraq "to secure the country." "We had a naive vision that the Iraqis were going to embrace us and then go on and live happily ever after," he said. Lieberman said the administration must "put severe pressure on the Iraqis to contain sectarian violence." "There is still hope in Iraq and as long as there is we cannot just pick up and walk away and leave them to the sure disaster that would follow and would compromise our security in the war on terrorism," he said. The Lamont campaign issued a statement Sunday criticizing Lieberman for trying to "paint himself as courageous for clinging to the failed 'stay the course' policy in Iraq and not listening to the voters of Connecticut on the need to change course." "His new found 'criticism' of the war won't convince Connecticut voters after so many years of stubbornly rubber-stamping Bush's failed policies," the statement said. The war in Iraq was the hallmark of Lamont's primary campaign. He calls for the withdrawal of U.S. troops from what he often refers to as "a bloody civil war," and says he believes that those who got America into the conflict should be held accountable. Lieberman accused Lamont of distorting his stance on Iraq. "He made me into a cheerleader for George Bush and everything that's happened," Lieberman said. "And the record shows that, while I believe we did the right thing in overthrowing Saddam Hussein, I've been very critical over the years, particularly in 2003 and 2004, about the failure to send enough American troops to secure the country, about the absence of adequate plans and preparation to deal with post-Saddam Iraq." "As bad as things are now - and they've gotten worse in the last six months - it would be a disaster if America set a deadline and said we're getting all of our troops out by a given date," Lieberman said. "That's a position Ned Lamont has taken." Tom Swan, campaign manager for Lamont, said Sunday the campaign stands by its criticism of Lieberman as being too close to President Bush. Asked about Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., who was quoted as saying that Lieberman echoes Republicans, Lieberman said it was "just plain politics by somebody who has ambitions of his own." "I voted 90 percent of the time with a majority of Democrats in the U.S. Senate," he said. "I'm worried that my party may become what we've accused the Republicans of, a kind of litmus-test party," he said. "If you don't agree with us 100 percent of the time, you don't agree with us. I'm devoted to the Democratic Party." A new Quinnipiac University poll shows Lamont is trailing Lieberman by 12 percentage points among likely voters. It said much of Lieberman's advantage comes from his popularity among Republicans and unaffiliated voters, the largest voting block in Connecticut. One of the reasons why Joe Lieberman is having so much trouble convincing Connecticut voters that he should remain their Senator is his ability to seem more Republican that the Republicans at unfortunate times. On a very conservative, for non-Fox TV, talk show he gives the World War III, no civil war in Iraq and the war in Iraq is necessary to fight terrorism at home. In 15 minutes. There aren't many Republicans running for office this year that could come close to that litany. http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/23/ny...gewanted=print August 23, 2006 Lieberman Warns of Danger of the U.S. Pulling Out of Iraq By JENNIFER MEDINA HARTFORD, Aug 22 - Suggesting that he sees parallels between the war in Iraq and the early struggle against fascism, Senator Joseph I. Lieberman said on Tuesday that the United States would create a dangerous world if it left Iraq too soon. "Iraq has now become what everyone thinks it was before, another battlefield in this war with Islamic terrorists, and we've got to end it with a victory," Mr. Lieberman said during an interview with the nationally syndicated conservative radio talk show host Glenn Beck on Tuesday. In the 15-minute interview, Mr. Lieberman warned against the United States becoming isolationist, and he seemed to agree with Mr. Beck's repeated statements suggesting that the war against Islamic terrorists represented the brink of an international war. When Mr. Beck compared the current situation to the eve of World War II, saying that that world was in denial then as it is now, Mr. Lieberman said there were "very, very severe echoes of all that." "You know somebody said to me that Iraq, if you look back at it, is going to be like the Spanish Civil War, which was the harbinger of what was to come," Mr. Lieberman said. "Also, as the Nazis began to move in Europe, we tried to convince ourselves we contained them - and we obviously didn't, and then we paid the price." At one point in the interview, Mr. Beck asked pointedly, "Why is it there aren't more politicians saying, 'Guys, this is World War III. We are in deep trouble?' " Mr. Lieberman responded by saying that he thought that both Republicans and Democrats treat "politics as if it was a sport in which you are on one team," and that "the aim is for that team to win." "And when you do that, you forget that there are larger interests, which is the interests of the United States of America," he said. "The other thing going on here is that you know people don't like to face the reality of danger, and maybe some politicians don't like to be the ones to talk about it. But everything you've just said is right." Ned Lamont, who defeated Mr. Lieberman in the Democratic primary in part by stoking antiwar sentiment, said that Mr. Lieberman's comments put him "way outside the mainstream, not just of Democrats, but of the public at large." Mr. Lamont has said he would back a plan for a firm timeline of troop withdrawal from Iraq, a position supported by several other Democrats in the Senate. "Nobody is talking about isolationism," Mr. Lamont said, responding in a telephone interview to Mr. Lieberman's remarks. "The problem is that the Bush administration and Senator Lieberman think that you can fight this like a conventional war, and that's where they are wrong. We have to deal with homeland security, port security, to really protect ourselves." Mr. Lieberman also reiterated his belief that the war against terrorists could drag on for several years, and that pulling troops out of Iraq would allow the Iranian government to move in and would increase the price of oil. "If we walk away, then the Iranians will - as sure as I am talking to you - surge into Iraq, certainly take over the south and the oil that's there," he said. "We'll be paying six or seven bucks a gallon. And that'll just be the tip of it. I mean, there'll be instability and war throughout the Middle East. We've got to wake up to this. It is the test, unfortunately, of not just this generation of American leaders, but of the next generation as well, because this enemy ain't going away." Mr. Lamont said that Mr. Lieberman was using overcharged rhetoric and said that he "fundamentally disagreed" with the senator. "The invasion of Iraq has had one big winner and that's Iran," Mr. Lamont said. "It's an enemy that is not going away, but that has nothing to do with the war in Iraq. The war in Iraq has been a distraction and made us weaker." Later, in appearance with Wolf Blitzer on CNN, Mr. Lieberman said that the war in Iraq had not undermined the credibility of efforts to deal with terror threats. Mr. Lieberman also said that he did not believe Iraq was already in a civil war, a term Mr. Lamont uses regularly. |
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Lieberman to consider Iraq Pullout
Leadfoot wrote:
One, it's a little late and the timing is a little suspicious. Two, Joe might need a new job and he would be a leading candidate to replace Rumsfeld http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060821/...nate_lieberman Sen. Joe Lieberman, attacked by fellow Democrats as being too close to the White House on the Iraq War, on Sunday called on Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld to resign but said the United States cannot "walk away" from the Iraqis. snip And, on top of that ... Lieberman to consider Iraq pullout plan By SUSAN HAIGH ASSOCIATED PRESS WRITER NEW HAVEN, Conn. -- Sen. Joe Lieberman, the three-term Democrat whose independent campaign for re-election is being seen as a referendum on the Iraq war, said Friday he would consider taking a look at a fellow lawmaker's proposal for a timeline for troop withdrawals. http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/nation...ut_Senate.html What is real interesting is that the "fellow lawmaker" is a Republican who has been hammered for his support of the Iraq occupation and is now considering changing his stand. Ain't politics grand? :-) John Mullen |
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