Rotation

"Jose" wrote in message
.. .
You are both describing the same action, Bob should have just said
"release the yoke" if the nose stays where you want it you are trimmed.
: )

Well, that's not the way I read the original post that raised my question,
and prompted Jay Beckman's comment that there is a lot that makes no sense
to me:

[Jay Beckman:] Trimming is a "feel" thing. You trim to relieve control
pressures and
you can't see pressure, you can only feel it.

[Bob Moo] Except in an airplane where the trim system moves the
horizontal stabilizer instead of a trim tab. In that case, there is no
feel
feedback to the yoke. One must release the pressure and see if the
airplane attitude remains where desired.

From this I gather that there is no difference in pressure on the yoke
when you are trimmed vs untrimmed. "One must release the pressure and
see..." Is the pressure so light that one flies much like a
non-force-feedback simulator? This would be very weird for me. I'm used
to flying real airplanes, not giant tubes with wings on them.

Jose

I got the impression from Bob's post that, in the case he describes, you are
(effectively) always trimmed.

IOW, it will stay nose up, nose down, right where it is ... but you have to
do some trial and error tweaking to ensure sure you are trimmed for the
attitude you *want* ...

Am I close, Bob?

Jay B