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Learning from an owner annual
Montblack wrote:
("Javier" wrote) Yes, it was, but it's now fixed (famous last words). High Anxiety (1977) Directed-Written-Starring ...Mel Brooks [Attempting to lift a heavy suitcase] Brophy: "I got it. I got it. I got it." [thump] Brophy: "I ain't got it." g Yes. Multiple times. One of my all time favorite movies. Jav - Thanks for doing the heavy lifting. Much appreciated by the rec.aviation group, I can assure you! You're just saying that. Anyway, it's my little contribution to the betterment of general aviation, and in fact, the world whole. -jav |
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So next year do the bulk of the annual on the 31st of March and screw in the
last nutplate on the 1st of April, when the signing takes place. I've found the 13 month annual to be way over-rated. The problem is your annual eventually ends up in the best flying times of year. I've been doing 11 month annuals trying to move it back into winter. -Robert |
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Yeah and there's no gas left in the van anyway.
Jim |
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"Javier" wrote You're just saying that. Anyway, it's my little contribution to the betterment of general aviation, and in fact, the world whole. Neverless, it never hurts to say thanks, to one who deserves it. You are appreciated. Thanks. -- Jim in NC |
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Morgans wrote:
"Javier" wrote You're just saying that. Anyway, it's my little contribution to the betterment of general aviation, and in fact, the world whole. Neverless, it never hurts to say thanks, to one who deserves it. You are appreciated. Thanks Me, too. Thanks, Jav. Jav's contributions extend beyond the aviation world, too. Dave |
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1) The number of things I found that were not done that I'd paid to
have done at previous annuals. Unfortunately, that's about par for the course - especially with regard to inspections. I've looked at a lot of airplanes where there was a logbook signature indicating something (usually some inspection) was recently done, and the condition of the surrounding area made it obvious that nobody had been there in years. My favorite was an AD compliance note that claimed a fuel line replacement - and the fuel line had a tag that predated the entry by years, and was the line that had to be replaced. 2) The number of things done wrong (like no cotter key in the wheel). Also very common. The last time I took a plane to a shop, it was to replace a cracked trunion. I felt it was a job that I might screw up, so best leave it to a specialty shop. Well, it came back with the snap ring for the oleo strut improperly seated. First less-than-perfect landing blew it out, and I had to rebuild it. From then on, I decided to just do everything myself. It's not like I never make a mistake, but I find that I make them less often than a high end shop (and I'm an amateur) and between taking the plane to the shop, getting it back, and then fixing what the shop screwed up, it's just about as fast to do it myself and a lot cheaper. 3) The amount of work an annual really requires. It took me 6 hours just to remove all the inspection panels (including drilling out several dozen screws). Lubing the 150 lube points wont go too quick either. You gotta ask yourself - if you had to dril so many of them out, what are the odds ALL of them were actually removed last annual (like they were suposed to be)? Not too high. That tells you what kind of annual you've been getting - and you've been paying top dollar. What do you think the $1000 annuals are like? But why? Well, because doing an annual on a complex airplane decades old is a 50+ hour proposition, and that's if nothing major is wrong. My basic Twin Comanche annual is about 60 hours. Now granted I have an extra engine, but the Mooney is so tightly cowled and everything is ho hard to get to that the time requirement is almost a wash. We used to have a shop locally where a basic annual with nothing major wrong cost $5000 for a Bonanza. An airline president started it so he could have a place to have his personal planes maintained correctly. When he died, he left it to the head mechanic, free and clear. The head mechanic can't make a go of it. Nobody will pay it - but that's really what it costs if you want it done right. Michael |
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exactly, and I am not aware of any torque limited pneumatic screwdrivers....
"Jim Macklin" wrote in message news:YQ9ag.20836$ZW3.15262@dukeread04... That's one reason shops use pneumatic drills and grinders. ".Blueskies." wrote in message . com... | Also, isn't the DC motor sparks thrown around inside a power screw driver a bit of a safety hazard? | | | wrote in message oups.com... | You know what? I've been through this one so many times, but it's been | | |
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".Blueskies." wrote in message news exactly, and I am not aware of any torque limited pneumatic screwdrivers.... "Jim Macklin" wrote in message news:YQ9ag.20836$ZW3.15262@dukeread04... That's one reason shops use pneumatic drills and grinders. ".Blueskies." wrote in message . com... | Also, isn't the DC motor sparks thrown around inside a power screw driver a bit of a safety hazard? | | | wrote in message oups.com... | You know what? I've been through this one so many times, but it's been | | Why, somebody leave a propane bottle open in the shop? |
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"Michael Ware" wrote Why, somebody leave a propane bottle open in the shop? I always have wondered about that, too. Surely, someone would notice if there was leaking avgas (or mogas) on the floor, or in the air. Especially at the concentrations it would take for it to be explosive, or even flammable. -- Jim in NC |
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RST Engineering wrote:
Do you s'pose a website dedicated to names & contact info for IAs that will do owner assisted annuals would be a good thing? Maybe with a little info about the mech like price structure, do it in your own hangar, etc? Jim YES |
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