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"ArtKramr" wrote in message ... Subject: Countering Widespread Ignorance About the National Guard From: "Kevin Brooks" Date: 2/28/04 4:30 PM Pacific Standard Time his latest evidence of your complete and utter lack of touch with reality (either then or now) and joining the evidently growing number of folks who have figured you out for what you really are. Brooks You are a lying piece of crap. PLONK Yes, thats the way to do it. PLONK someone who makes valid points. Don't even try to debate the issue. Face it, Art, you got caught out for being clueless and you don't like it. Now act like a mature adult for a change. |
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(ArtKramr) wrote:
Subject: Countering Widespread Ignorance About the National Guard From: "Kevin Brooks" Date: 2/28/04 4:30 PM Pacific Standard Time his latest evidence of your complete and utter lack of touch with reality (either then or now) and joining the evidently growing number of folks who have figured you out for what you really are. Brooks You are a lying piece of crap. PLONK Arthur Kramer Well arthur, now you really do have a reason to quit this ng in a hissy fit, certainly a much better reason than when you quit it for awhile when I took you to task for insulting your enlisted crewmembers about their lack of intelligence, remember? Looks like Brooks has you pretty well squared away here I'd say. Shame too, you're one of the few veterans who has front line experience in WW2. Many young people could learn much from you, and it's important that they do that too, the more people who know of war the more pressure can be applied for peace. It's a damned shame that you're such an ignorant prick. -- -Gord. |
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"Ragnar" wrote:
"ArtKramr" wrote: You are a lying piece of crap. PLONK Yes, thats the way to do it. PLONK someone who makes valid points. Don't even try to debate the issue. Or even more brilliant, conjure up an imaginary playmate like "Autocollimator" so as to massage your own cringing ego. Here are just a few excerpts from Kramer/Autocollimator... "We must never confuse the ones who only talk the talk with those who actually walked the walk." --Kramer while posing as "Autocollimator" "Your vivid memory is our gain. Thanks again." --Kramer having a discussion "Autocollimator" (e.g: Kramer having a discussion with Kramer) "Great story. Thanks for posting it. I envy you your combat experience..Keep the war stories coming." --Kramer having a discussion "Autocollimator" (e.g: Kramer having a discussion with Kramer) "Your stuff is the most interesting on this NG. You can't beat being there no matter what. I look for your posts every time I log on. Keep 'em flying." --Kramer having a discussion "Autocollimator" (e.g: Kramer having a discussion with Kramer) "While the Japs were beheading American flyers we were sending German prisoners to Kansas where they got better food and medical attention than they ever had in their miserable Nazi lives, Many stayed to marry American woman and are among us to this day. Your comparison to how the Japs treated prisoners and how we did is odious and disgusting. I can only attribute it your ignorance of the history of the period.. Now why don't you take your crappy Piper Cub and shove it where the sun don't shine..Imbecile." --Kramer while posing as "Autocollimator" "Have been reading your website. Great stuff . I have some questions. We'll do it e-mail. Thanks." --Kramer having a discussion "Autocollimator" (e.g: Kramer having a discussion with Kramer) "Next time the Kauts have you by the throats don't come whining to us for help again. .We'll let then eat you as we should have in the first place, Nations that are defenseless shouldn't be so arrogant." --Kramer while posing as "Autocollimator" "South African? That is a Brit that coculdn't quite make it. But you sound more like an Arab to me. Sure you are not an Arab and ashamed of it?" --Kramer while posing as "Autocollimator" "Then there are those idiots who don't know that to this day there are many Germans who believe in Hitler and the Nazi cause and want to bring it all back These are the worst idiots of all.." --Kramer while posing as "Autocollimator" "As I understand it Art is the only one in this NG that actually flew combat in WWII as aircrew.So I will take his view above all those that never flew as aircrew in WW II." --Kramer having a discussion "Autocollimator" (e.g: Kramer having a discussion with Kramer) Face it, Art, you got caught out for being clueless and you don't like it. Now act like a mature adult for a change. Kramer/Autocollimator (take your pick) is utterly incapable of acting like an adult and I'm convinced that the man has gone 'round the pale. What's sad about all this is that it's virtually impossible to feel any compassion or sympathy for the old man given all the gratuitous, mean-spirited vitriol that he constantly spews. |
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Many young people could learn much from you
I doubt it. Art's memeories are so twisted and distorted, either by time or his God awful personality (or both?), that anything coming out his mouth or keyboard should immediately disregarded. BUFDRVR "Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips everyone on Bear Creek" |
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The Americal Division was formed in WW2 (May 1942) from the 132 Regiment
Illinois National Guard, 164 Regiment North Dakota National Guard, 182 Regiment Massachussetts National Guard. Commanded by Maj. Gen. Alexander Patch, it served on Guadalcanal. The North Dakota Guard Regiment played the key role in smashing the largest Japanese offensive of the campaign, in October 1942. The 147 Regiment Ohio National Guard served independently on Guadalcanal, working closely with Marine units. Besides the Americal most of the rest of the Army's combat strength in the South Pacific and New Guinea came from five National Guard Divisions, 41, 43 formed around Connecticut National Guard, 32 formed around Wisconsin and Michigan National Guards (and commanded by Maj. General Edwin Harding, coauthor of the Army Infantry Manual), 37 formed around Ohio National Guard and the 25 formed around Washington National Guard. The 37th, 25th and 43rd fought on New Georgia, the 41 and 32 on New Guinea. |
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"Mike Marron" wrote in message
... (BUFDRVR) wrote: I doubt it. Art's memeories are so twisted and distorted, either by time or his God awful personality (or both?), that anything coming out his mouth or keyboard should immediately disregarded. Exactly. Art has absolutely no business posting his insane WW2 gibberish on Usenet and instead he should be working on leather crafts and paint-by-number projects in some VA hospital mental ward or nursing home while under constant 24/7 adult supervision. Personally although I don't always agree with Art, I find the majority of his posts far more interesting and on-topic than yours. John |
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"Mike Marron" wrote in message
... "Ragnar" wrote: "ArtKramr" wrote: You are a lying piece of crap. PLONK Yes, thats the way to do it. PLONK someone who makes valid points. Don't even try to debate the issue. Or even more brilliant, conjure up an imaginary playmate like "Autocollimator" so as to massage your own cringing ego. Here are just a few excerpts from Kramer/Autocollimator... "We must never confuse the ones who only talk the talk with those who actually walked the walk." --Kramer while posing as "Autocollimator" "Your vivid memory is our gain. Thanks again." --Kramer having a discussion "Autocollimator" (e.g: Kramer having a discussion with Kramer) "Great story. Thanks for posting it. I envy you your combat experience..Keep the war stories coming." --Kramer having a discussion "Autocollimator" (e.g: Kramer having a discussion with Kramer) "Your stuff is the most interesting on this NG. You can't beat being there no matter what. I look for your posts every time I log on. Keep 'em flying." --Kramer having a discussion "Autocollimator" (e.g: Kramer having a discussion with Kramer) "While the Japs were beheading American flyers we were sending German prisoners to Kansas where they got better food and medical attention than they ever had in their miserable Nazi lives, Many stayed to marry American woman and are among us to this day. Your comparison to how the Japs treated prisoners and how we did is odious and disgusting. I can only attribute it your ignorance of the history of the period.. Now why don't you take your crappy Piper Cub and shove it where the sun don't shine..Imbecile." --Kramer while posing as "Autocollimator" "Have been reading your website. Great stuff . I have some questions. We'll do it e-mail. Thanks." --Kramer having a discussion "Autocollimator" (e.g: Kramer having a discussion with Kramer) "Next time the Kauts have you by the throats don't come whining to us for help again. .We'll let then eat you as we should have in the first place, Nations that are defenseless shouldn't be so arrogant." --Kramer while posing as "Autocollimator" "South African? That is a Brit that coculdn't quite make it. But you sound more like an Arab to me. Sure you are not an Arab and ashamed of it?" --Kramer while posing as "Autocollimator" "Then there are those idiots who don't know that to this day there are many Germans who believe in Hitler and the Nazi cause and want to bring it all back These are the worst idiots of all.." --Kramer while posing as "Autocollimator" "As I understand it Art is the only one in this NG that actually flew combat in WWII as aircrew.So I will take his view above all those that never flew as aircrew in WW II." --Kramer having a discussion "Autocollimator" (e.g: Kramer having a discussion with Kramer) Face it, Art, you got caught out for being clueless and you don't like it. Now act like a mature adult for a change. Kramer/Autocollimator (take your pick) is utterly incapable of acting like an adult and I'm convinced that the man has gone 'round the pale. What's sad about all this is that it's virtually impossible to feel any compassion or sympathy for the old man given all the gratuitous, mean-spirited vitriol that he constantly spews. You've tried this before Michael. Why not give it a rest. Your obsession says more about you than it ever could about Art. And, speaking of gratuitous, mean-spirited vitriol, I doubt that Art has anything to learn from you in that area. You also seem mixed up by 'i.e.' and 'e.g.'. Tip: if you don't understand Latin, leave it alone. John |
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"John Mullen" wrote in message ... "Mike Marron" wrote in message ... (BUFDRVR) wrote: I doubt it. Art's memeories are so twisted and distorted, either by time or his God awful personality (or both?), that anything coming out his mouth or keyboard should immediately disregarded. Exactly. Art has absolutely no business posting his insane WW2 gibberish on Usenet and instead he should be working on leather crafts and paint-by-number projects in some VA hospital mental ward or nursing home while under constant 24/7 adult supervision. Personally although I don't always agree with Art, I find the majority of his posts far more interesting and on-topic than yours. "Don't always agree with Art"? Based upon his last several rants in this NG, and their complete and utter lack basis in fact, if you *ever* agree with Art you have a problem. In regards to on/off-topic, Art is one of the illustrious few who has, in the very same day, lambasted posters for off-topic material, then turned right around and *started* a new off-topic thread. Sadly, he'll take the last phrase of your comment above and treat it as a veritable "atta-boy, Art--go get 'em". Which will result in his once again coming out with crap like that which spurred the original post in this thread. Art, the Tarvernaut, Mo-ron...they are *all* of about equal caliber. Oops...I forgot to include the resident "down under" (both Aussie and South African varieties) charter members of that august group, Aerophotos/JGG (and his patriarchal alter-ego) and Grantland. Brooks John |
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