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"Doug "Woody" and Erin Beal" wrote in message ... On 4/4/04 2:52 PM, in article , "monkey" wrote: "Doug \"Woody\" and Erin Beal" wrote in message ... On 4/4/04 5:16 AM, in article , "monkey" wrote: SNIP err...read the post...like I said, I'm not an F/A-18 pilot, I'm a CF-18 pilot...BITCH. p.s. flew a great 2v2 today, what did you do, clown show? Yep, this guy's a Hornet pilot. He certainly talks like one! Where are you stationed, Monkey? If Cold Lake, is Pat Peters still up there? --Woody Cold Lake. If you mean the USAF Pat Peters at AETE, yes he's still here. I have to admit I don't really know the guy though. Where are you at? That's the guy. More off line. I'm telling you, Tarver, the guy's authentic. He seems authentic in many ways, especially the F/A-18 big dick attitude; something I have to admit is earned. My only objection is his propigating a safety of flight training defect. |
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"Doug "Woody" and Erin Beal" wrote in message ... On 4/4/04 1:46 PM, in article , "Tarver Engineering" wrote: "Doug "Woody" and Erin Beal" wrote in message ... SNIP Missed the front part of the conversation, John. What exactly did he say? I made a claim WRT the break out force of the F/A-18 stick and monkey came by to correct me. I'm not sure what break-out force you're talking about. Granted, my only experience with MECH is during FCF's, but when you motor the right engine (no generators on line), the stabs just move--period. If there was any sensation of a "break out" force, I'd down the jet for binding flight controls. There is a cable system connected such that the stick continues to work for a total electric failure in the F-18ABCD. |
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dmonk- Cold Lake. If you mean the USAF Pat Peters at AETE, yes he's still
here. BRBR Does the 'Sapsucker' or whatever it was called, still go on at ColdLake. P. C. Chisholm CDR, USN(ret.) Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye Phlyer |
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Do you believe Canadains have somehow eliminated the mechanical backup in
their F-18s? Perhaps you mean you are lying. BRBR Do ya mean that the F-18 doesn't have a powered backup, like the hydrazene elec.gen of a F-16 that gives it trons? Just asking, have time in the F-16N, none in the Hornet, just been behind a few- P. C. Chisholm CDR, USN(ret.) Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye Phlyer |
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"Doug "Woody" and Erin Beal" wrote in message ... On 4/4/04 5:55 PM, in article , "Tarver Engineering" wrote: "Doug "Woody" and Erin Beal" wrote in message ... On 4/4/04 1:46 PM, in article , "Tarver Engineering" wrote: "Doug "Woody" and Erin Beal" wrote in message ... SNIP Missed the front part of the conversation, John. What exactly did he say? I made a claim WRT the break out force of the F/A-18 stick and monkey came by to correct me. I'm not sure what break-out force you're talking about. Granted, my only experience with MECH is during FCF's, but when you motor the right engine (no generators on line), the stabs just move--period. If there was any sensation of a "break out" force, I'd down the jet for binding flight controls. There is a cable system connected such that the stick continues to work for a total electric failure in the F-18ABCD. Yes. Truly. It's in the NATOPS and everything. My confusion with your statements is this occasional mention of a "break out" or "break out force." There is nothing like that. I know that information from having desiged the first accuratee F/A-18 simulator at Dryden. The reason for bringing up the break out force in the first place was to demonstrate how much force a Flanker applying an additional 33# of force directly into his crotch to do a cobra would be risking. It is a completely different thread, but monkey wanted to branch off into a demonstration is his huge penis and then immediately stepped on same. As I explained before. If while starting up the aircraft, if you simply windmill the right engine (battery power only, no generators on line, RPM sitting at about 26-32%), you can wipe out the stick and observe the stabs move--differentially for roll and together for pitch. There is no binding and the only force is that of the artificial feel system trying to return the stick to the neutral position--the same as when the jet is in CAS mode. They even have more pitch authority with the flap switch in HALF or FULL. That's MECH in a nutshell. There is no FCS in mech mode for the F/A-18ABCD, so the limits are disabled. The mechanical control system, is of course interesting to the Flanker discussion in that the F/A-18ABCD are cobra capable under a disabled FCS system just as the Flanker is. the difference bring that the F/A-18ABCD has the FCS over ride switches delected for production. It is mechanically controlled and hydraulically actuated, so you must have at least one engine windmilling to make it work. The probabilistic viewpoint is that the system failure most likely is that "prince of darkness" rotary inverter. It never lived up to it's MTBF promises. |
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"AbsolutelyCertain" wrote in message
... "JL Grasso " wrote in message ... On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 10:19:21 -0700, "Tarver Engineering" wrote: I know that information from having desiged the first accuratee F/A-18 simulator at Dryden. How do you ever find the time for all of your exploits? Jerry They happen mostly during REM sleep, I think. Or while clenching a stick in his teeth to keep from swallowing his tongue. Jack Nicholson, "One Flew Over the Gerbil's Nest". Who could forget? Zzzzzzztttt! Zzzzzzztttt! |
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Look, Tarver, I've accumulated enough hours in the Hornet to have more
than a clue about its systems and how to employ them than you do. Woody, the Tarver-dude is reasoning-proof. In ancient Greece he'd be a sophist without a following. Plonk him ;-) _____________ José Herculano |
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