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"Ed Rasimus" wrote...
Fighter pilots are not stupid, but, they occasionally may be disoriented. At least AF pilots can always orient themselves by the base runway--for the poor nasal radiators the runway keeps moving and turning. It's a test -- can we stay oriented while the runway's moving in circles? |
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"Ed Rasimus" wrote in message ... Maybe "rising sun" was a poor descriptor for "sun on the horizon"? I think a logo with a "sun on the horizon" for any group calling themselves the Sun Downers would be best described as a setting sun. How can one tell by looking at a logo if they are looking a a depiction of East horizon or West? If the logo is for the Sun Downers it's a west horizon. |
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On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 15:57:08 GMT, "John R Weiss"
wrote: "Ed Rasimus" wrote... Fighter pilots are not stupid, but, they occasionally may be disoriented. At least AF pilots can always orient themselves by the base runway--for the poor nasal radiators the runway keeps moving and turning. It's a test -- can we stay oriented while the runway's moving in circles? Why does that conjure up an image of a base turn that never reaches final? Ed Rasimus Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret) "When Thunder Rolled" Smithsonian Institution Press ISBN #1-58834-103-8 |
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"Ed Rasimus" wrote...
It's a test -- can we stay oriented while the runway's moving in circles? Why does that conjure up an image of a base turn that never reaches final? Been there; done that! When operating "zip lip" in the vicinity of rainstorms, the ship would often make unannounced turns. Occasionally they'd do it during night EMCON ops, too, but that would result in a ILS localizer that just wouldn't stay in the middle... |
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"John R Weiss" wrote in message
news:ZOhfc.134856$gA5.1580389@attbi_s03... "Ed Rasimus" wrote... It's a test -- can we stay oriented while the runway's moving in circles? Why does that conjure up an image of a base turn that never reaches final? Been there; done that! When operating "zip lip" in the vicinity of rainstorms, the ship would often make unannounced turns. Occasionally they'd do it during night EMCON ops, too, but that would result in a ILS localizer that just wouldn't stay in the middle... Which ship in whose Navy had an ILS localizer on board? Did it tow marker beacons, too? Rick |
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Fighter pilots are not stupid, but, they occasionally may be
disoriented. What about fighter pilots of the IJN? Did they become disoccidented? vince norris |
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Which ship in whose Navy had an ILS localizer on board? Did it tow marker
beacons, too? SPN41, equivalent to ILS. A godsend when it got ugly and/or dark. Yes, those plane guard helos had a hell of a time maintaining position with their marker beacons, heh, heh, heh. Obviously, we were limited to DME only, assuming it was radiating. But given the nature of the beast, you knew pretty much where you were by altitude. R / John |
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vincent p. norris wrote:
Fighter pilots are not stupid, but, they occasionally may be disoriented. What about fighter pilots of the IJN? Did they become disoccidented? Ggggggggggrrrrrrrrrrooooooooooaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnn . -- OJ III [Email sent to Yahoo address is burned before reading. Lower and crunch the sig and you'll net me at comcast.] |
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"Yofuri" wrote...
Which ship in whose Navy had an ILS localizer on board? Did it tow marker beacons, too? SPN-41 ILS was a Navy-specific system. Course & G/S, but no marker beacons. We used DME or radar for tipover info. |
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Ed- Why does that conjure up an image of a base turn that never reaches
final? BRBR Ya haven't lived until ya try to get aboard when the ship's inna turn..great fun and if ya don't kill yerself, an auto 'OK' pass from paddles. P. C. Chisholm CDR, USN(ret.) Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye Phlyer |
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