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Old June 26th 04, 10:13 PM
Mark Tomlinson
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Was just wondering if anyone could provide insight as to why when I
scan the posted Seattle Center ATC approach and departure frequencies
on any of my mobile or base scanners I can only pick up transmissions
from the aircraft and not ATC?

Thanks!

MT
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Old June 27th 04, 01:30 AM
Bob Moore
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zatatime wrote
Because FM band is a "Line of Sight" communications band.


That's true, but aviation band transmissions are Amplitude
Modulation (AM). Aviation transmissions are line-of-sight
because of the frequency, not the modulation type.

Bob Moore
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Old June 27th 04, 03:20 AM
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zatatime wrote in message . ..

Because FM band is a "Line of Sight" communications band.
If you're close to wherever the ATC facility is (you can see it) you
should get all transmissions.

HTH.
z



Thank you. Found this answer in another group after my posting here.


MT

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Old June 27th 04, 04:32 PM
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On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 00:30:12 GMT, Bob Moore
wrote:

zatatime wrote
Because FM band is a "Line of Sight" communications band.


That's true, but aviation band transmissions are Amplitude
Modulation (AM). Aviation transmissions are line-of-sight
because of the frequency, not the modulation type.

Bob Moore



Can you explain? 122.6 (for example) is an FM frequency, how does ATC
transmit on the AM band?

z
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Old June 27th 04, 05:24 PM
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why do you say 122.6 is a fm freq

122.6 is a vhf freqency,it can also be either am or fm modulation , fm or am
means the way the signal is transmitted not the frequency
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Old June 27th 04, 05:30 PM
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"zatatime" wrote in message
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On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 00:30:12 GMT, Bob Moore
wrote:

zatatime wrote
Because FM band is a "Line of Sight" communications band.


That's true, but aviation band transmissions are Amplitude
Modulation (AM). Aviation transmissions are line-of-sight
because of the frequency, not the modulation type.

Bob Moore



Can you explain? 122.6 (for example) is an FM frequency, how does ATC
transmit on the AM band?

z


Frequency and modulation type are totally unrelated. There is no such thing
as "an FM frequency." VHF aviation transceivers transmit and receive
Amplitude Modulated (AM) signals. VHF communication is typically but not
always line of sight. Signal propagation is frequency dependent not
modulation type dependent (with exceptions here and there).









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Old June 28th 04, 02:45 AM
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On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 16:30:11 GMT, "Dave Stadt"
wrote:


"zatatime" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 00:30:12 GMT, Bob Moore
wrote:

zatatime wrote
Because FM band is a "Line of Sight" communications band.

That's true, but aviation band transmissions are Amplitude
Modulation (AM). Aviation transmissions are line-of-sight
because of the frequency, not the modulation type.

Bob Moore



Can you explain? 122.6 (for example) is an FM frequency, how does ATC
transmit on the AM band?

z


Frequency and modulation type are totally unrelated. There is no such thing
as "an FM frequency." VHF aviation transceivers transmit and receive
Amplitude Modulated (AM) signals. VHF communication is typically but not
always line of sight. Signal propagation is frequency dependent not
modulation type dependent (with exceptions here and there).


Thanks. I always thought VORs/Comm were FM and NDBs were AM. Need to
learn more about the VHF band. Appreciate the post, what you say
makes sense (mostly, but because of my need to learn, not because I
think you aren't right).

z
 




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