OT Humor: I couldn't resist...

And the cafeteria at the student union at the Univ of Colorado (Boulder)
is named for Alferd Packer.

Anything unusual on the menu, Blanche?

vince norris

buttman wrote:

I never understood the whole "donner" thing. I did a google search, and
apparently "Donner Party" has something to do with some western
migration thing. I am so confused.

Truly?

Well, as I understand it, the story is that there was a group migrating
somewhere through a mountain pass and they got caught in a snowstorm, ran
out of food and resorted to cannibalism.

--
Saville

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("vincent p. norris" wrote)
And the cafeteria at the student union at the Univ of Colorado (Boulder)
is named for Alferd Packer.

Anything unusual on the menu, Blanche?


Manwich


Montblack

Montblack wrote:
("vincent p. norris" wrote)
And the cafeteria at the student union at the Univ of Colorado (Boulder)
is named for Alferd Packer.

Anything unusual on the menu, Blanche?

Manwich

(*spit take*)

"Montblack" wrote in message
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("vincent p. norris" wrote)
And the cafeteria at the student union at the Univ of Colorado (Boulder)
is named for Alferd Packer.

Anything unusual on the menu, Blanche?


Manwich

The restaurant is very expensive. It'll cost you an arm and a leg, for an
arm and a leg.

At his trial, the judge reportedly said, "There was only 7 Democrats in this
whole damn county, Packer, and you et 3 of them."

Jim



And the cafeteria at the student union at the Univ of Colorado (Boulder)
is named for Alferd Packer.

And the cafeteria at the student union at the Univ of Colorado (Boulder)
is named for Alferd Packer.

RST Engineering wrote:
At his trial, the judge reportedly said, "There was only 7 Democrats
in this whole damn county, Packer, and you et 3 of them."



The Story of
Alferd E. Packer

"The Colorado Cannibal"

On February 9, 1874, Alferd Packer and five other men departed from the
camp of Ute Chief Ouray, near what is now Montrose, Colorado. They were
resuming a trek that had begun several months earlier in Provo, Utah,
hoping to reach newly discovered gold prospects in Breckenridge, Colorado.

While the original party was considerably larger, only Packer (as guide)
and Israel Swan, Shannon Wilson Bell, George Noon, James Humphrey, and
Frank Miller dared risk the sometimes brutal Colorado winter in search
of riches. And brutal it was, as not long after leaving the safety of
Chief Ouray's camp, the group was engulfed in a furious blizzard near
the present site of Lake City, Colorado.

Packer was next seen on April 16, 1874, straggling into the Los Pinos
Indian Agency with little more than a rifle and a skinning knife
belonging to members of his party. The story Packer told at that time
was that, once the storm hit, he had set up camp while the others went
forward in search of food. They never returned, and Packer subsequently
headed out for Los Pinos.

After recovering, Packer left for Saguache , Colorado, where by some
accounts he suddenly became a 'big spender' at the local saloon.
Unfortunately for Packer, in Saguache he encountered several men from
the original Provo group who were dubious about his version of the story.

Indian Agent Charles Adams took Packer back to Los Pinos for questioning
about the matter, and on May 8, 1874, extracted the first of Packard's
two conflicting confessions. According to Packer, Israel Swan had died
and the others, being without food, had eaten him. Subsequently, three
others had died from exposure and starvation. Then, Packer admitted to
killing Shannon Bell, claiming it was in self-defense.

Packer was transported back to Saguache and jailed outside of town, not
in the town's jail house as some have told. In August, Packer escaped
from custody and wasn't seen again until March, 1883, when Frenchy
Cabazon, one of the original prospecting party, found him quite by
accident in Douglas, Wyoming.

By coincidence, on the day of Packer's escape from Saguache, the ghostly
remains of the missing prospectors were found in a valley overlooking
what is now Lake City, Colorado. There was evidence of a struggle and
foul play. The gravesite is now marked and fenced as a tribute to the
murdered men.

In March, 1883, Packer was taken to Denver, Colorado, and questioned
again about the incident. In his second confession, Packer stuck with
his original claim of self-defense, but admitted to stealing the rifle
and $70 in cash from the dead men. Packer was charged with the murder
of Israel Swan, the first to die, and was taken to Lake City for trial.

The jury wasted no time in finding Packer guilty of murder, and Judge
Melville B. Gerry pronounced that Packer "be hanged by the neck until
you are dead, dead, dead..." .

Packer appealed his conviction to the Colorado Supreme Court where the
verdict was reversed. He was tried again and this time found guilty of
manslaughter and sentenced to 40 years in the state penitentiary.

After serving only 17 years of his sentence, Packer's cause was
championed by a grass-roots campaign in Denver. In 1901, Governor
Charles S. Thomas granted Packer's parole request.

Packer moved to Littleton, Colorado, where by all accounts he became a
model citizen, well liked by all of his neighbors. He died of natural
causes on April 23, 1907, and was buried with military funeral in
Littleton Cemetery.

Such a legendary story was Packer's that in 1968, students at the
University of Colorado in Boulder christened their new cafeteria The
Alferd E. Packer Memorial Grill ! In 1982, a statue honoring Packer was
commissioned and can be seen on the Boulder campus.

A figure of Packer sits in the women's cell at the Saguache County
Museum. Sheriff Amos Wall guards the prisoner from his chair in his
office. On display are handcuffs, leg irons and other items relating to
the history of Alferd Packer.

Information for this story was compiled from The Saguache County Museum,
Alferd Packer's Wilderness Cookbook by James E. Banks, and other sources.
Buy Banks' book in our Gift Shop.

And the cafeteria at the student union at the Univ of Colorado
(Boulder) is named for Alferd Packer.

RST Engineering wrote:
At his trial, the judge reportedly said, "There was only 7 Democrats
in this whole damn county, Packer, and you et 3 of them."

from another source...
One of the more colorful stories states that a judge spat at Packer,
"There were seven Dimmycrats in Hinsdale County and you et five of
them!" The truth, apparently, is that the judge was a very literate man
and made no such statement.

Doof opined

"Montblack" wrote in message
...
("vincent p. norris" wrote)
And the cafeteria at the student union at the Univ of Colorado (Boulder)
is named for Alferd Packer.

Anything unusual on the menu, Blanche?


Manwich

The restaurant is very expensive. It'll cost you an arm and a leg, for an
arm and a leg.

I picked up a wonderful cookbook several years ago.

/To Serve Man: A Cookbook for People./ It has such delicacies as Chili con
Hombre, Homme Bourguigon and Hungarian Ghoulash.



-ash
Cthulhu in 2005!
Why wait for nature?

wow thats so funny.