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Old July 27th 03, 05:49 PM
Michael 182
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Default Lost comm - Arrival

I know I should know this, but I just can't remember. If I lose comm on an
assigned arrival do I step down to the altitudes on the arrival segments? If
it visual can I "assign myself" the visual approach?

Thanks,

Michael



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Old July 27th 03, 07:17 PM
Bob Gardner
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Most, if not all, stepdowns are based on terrain/obstacle clearance, so it
would make sense to follow the procedure. If you break out into VFR, just
use your PIC authority to do whatever you think best.

Bob Gardner

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I know I should know this, but I just can't remember. If I lose comm on an
assigned arrival do I step down to the altitudes on the arrival segments?

If
it visual can I "assign myself" the visual approach?

Thanks,

Michael





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Old July 27th 03, 08:00 PM
Sydney Hoeltzli
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Bob Gardner wrote:
Most, if not all, stepdowns are based on terrain/obstacle clearance, so it
would make sense to follow the procedure. If you break out into VFR, just
use your PIC authority to do whatever you think best.


Bob,

Respectfully, if the pilot breaks out into 'VFR', isn't he bound
by 91.185(b) to "land as soon as practicable"?

Clearly there is some PIC authority involved in deciding what
is "practicable". My point is, I don't think we should forget
ths part of the reg; if the pilot breaks into VMC, but continues
a protracted IFR arrival procedure and a visual approach into a
busy airport whilst overflying several airports of suitable
landing length, it is possible he might have some explaining
to do.

Cheers,
Sydney

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Old July 28th 03, 12:04 AM
Bob Gardner
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You're right....I took that as a given.

Bob Gardner

"Sydney Hoeltzli" wrote in message
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Bob Gardner wrote:
Most, if not all, stepdowns are based on terrain/obstacle clearance, so

it
would make sense to follow the procedure. If you break out into VFR,

just
use your PIC authority to do whatever you think best.


Bob,

Respectfully, if the pilot breaks out into 'VFR', isn't he bound
by 91.185(b) to "land as soon as practicable"?

Clearly there is some PIC authority involved in deciding what
is "practicable". My point is, I don't think we should forget
ths part of the reg; if the pilot breaks into VMC, but continues
a protracted IFR arrival procedure and a visual approach into a
busy airport whilst overflying several airports of suitable
landing length, it is possible he might have some explaining
to do.

Cheers,
Sydney



 




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