Brantly B2

(helopilot) wrote in message . com...
Dennis, you're stupid and obviously don't know what you're talking
about. The helicopter was not overloaded on that flight. The guy
flying it let the RRPM decay beyond recovery, as can be done with any
helicopter. The Brantly is a good, reliable helicopter that can be
operated very reasonably. It's also no more cramped than any other
2-place helicopter, and actually has more room than the R22 and
certainly more than your rediculous scorpion.



wrote in message ...
"Stu & Kathy Fields" wrote:

The power/wt and hp/wt is as good or better than the Safari. But......

the brantly is a piece of junk. I'll take my scorpion over a brantly
any day.

BTW, the hub system on a brantley is a retarded attempt at a fully
articulated hub system. It has three heavy blades with the lead-lag
hinge about half way out on the blade. Its true, I'm not joking, the
blade hinges way out in the middle about 6 feet out.

No two-passenger helicopter should have been overloaded with those two
skinny guys in there. One was trapped underwater because the cockpit
is so cramped. Fortunately, he was able to pop the windscreen out and
escape through there.

Save your money and buy something besides a brantly.

Dennis H.


Brantly B2 is as good as the pilot operating it
Heavy blades are better than low inertia ones
In autorotation flare after leveling off for landing the rate of rotor
decay will support the helicopter for as such as 4 seconds
No experimental homebuilt can compete with a certified one
The simple flapping & lead-lag hinges & dampers work just fine on the
outer main rotor blades

I will say something postive the Brantly: I was given an opportunity to
hover a Brantly before I ever had any helo dual. I was able the first time
to hold the ship in position with the Cyclic without the instructor having
to grab. Something that never happened with anything short of a UH-1N
before. Certainly ot the Safari, not the R22, and not the Bell 47 nor the
Schweitzer 300CB. So I think the Brantly is much easier to fly. It just
doesn't seem to have the performance of other more twitchy helos.

Stu Fields
wrote in message
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"Stu & Kathy Fields" wrote:

The power/wt and hp/wt is as good or better than the Safari. But......

the brantly is a piece of junk. I'll take my scorpion over a brantly
any day.

BTW, the hub system on a brantley is a retarded attempt at a fully
articulated hub system. It has three heavy blades with the lead-lag
hinge about half way out on the blade. Its true, I'm not joking, the
blade hinges way out in the middle about 6 feet out.

No two-passenger helicopter should have been overloaded with those two
skinny guys in there. One was trapped underwater because the cockpit
is so cramped. Fortunately, he was able to pop the windscreen out and
escape through there.

Save your money and buy something besides a brantly.

Dennis H.


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Hennie wrote:

Please help me with some info on the Brantly B2

Will it be able to be flown safely in South Africa.
I live at 4700 ft above sea level
with summer temps up to 100F
I am worried about density altitude.


Thanks

Hennie

http://www.brantly.com/aircraft.htm
Hover IGE @ max weight, 59F, only 3,525 ft.

Though never having flown a brantly, I have seen a couple in the flesh, one
hangered at the school I used to train at, and one new one at Heli-Expo. The
one thing that always concerned me was how low slung the rotor system is. When
standing next to the helicopter, I had to duck to keep my head from hitting the
blades...I can see when they are going round & round real fast as helicopters
like to do, one could literally lose your head getting into our out of one of
these things. Just an opinion.
Dave

(Davdirect) wrote in message ...
Though never having flown a brantly, I have seen a couple in the flesh, one
hangered at the school I used to train at, and one new one at Heli-Expo. The
one thing that always concerned me was how low slung the rotor system is. When
standing next to the helicopter, I had to duck to keep my head from hitting the
blades...I can see when they are going round & round real fast as helicopters
like to do, one could literally lose your head getting into our out of one of
these things. Just an opinion.
Dave

This beats the common sense
Why would one walk close to & under & into a spinning rotor?
Would one jump into a dry lakebed for swimming?
One must not be jumpy
Don't lose patience & won't lose the head

"Murphy's law" wrote in message
m...
(Davdirect) wrote in message
...
Though never having flown a brantly, I have seen a couple in the flesh,
one
hangered at the school I used to train at, and one new one at Heli-Expo.
The
one thing that always concerned me was how low slung the rotor system
is. When
standing next to the helicopter, I had to duck to keep my head from
hitting the
blades...I can see when they are going round & round real fast as
helicopters
like to do, one could literally lose your head getting into our out of
one of
these things. Just an opinion.
Dave

This beats the common sense
Why would one walk close to & under & into a spinning rotor?
Would one jump into a dry lakebed for swimming?
One must not be jumpy
Don't lose patience & won't lose the head

Agreed! Especially in the case of something like the Brantly. I've only
seen a couple of them and like Dave, was struck (no pun intended!) by how
low the rotor was.

OTOH, as long as the pilot's sitting there with a firm hand on the cyclic
(keeping the disk level) and has eye contact with approaching / departing
ground personnel, it's not uncommon to load and unload passengers with the
rotor spinning. I'm not saying it's the safest thing in the world to do but
by my admittedly limited experience, it's pretty common.

Actually, I've heard of more people (with a bad case of rectal/cranial
inversion) sticking their heads in the tail rotor than the main rotor
although I'm sure it's been done both ways. :-o

Fly Safe,
Steve R.

"Steve R." wrote in message
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SNIP Agreed! Especially in the case of something like the Brantly. I've
only
seen a couple of them and like Dave, was struck (no pun intended!) by how
low the rotor was.

OTOH, as long as the pilot's sitting there with a firm hand on the cyclic
(keeping the disk level) and has eye contact with approaching / departing
ground personnel, it's not uncommon to load and unload passengers with the
rotor spinning. I'm not saying it's the safest thing in the world to do
but
by my admittedly limited experience, it's pretty common.


I worked as an engineer with Brantlys for ten years and went in and out of
the rotor disk many times a week. Never had a problem.
The trick - as with all helicopters - is to look for the tip path.

And as for the topic - Our guys used it for pipeline patrol and it was just
as good as any turbine. That rotor system is so smooth. - First time I flew
in another type I thought it was coming apart when it went into transition!

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