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Bush Flew Fighter Jets During Vietnam



 
 
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Old July 8th 04, 11:23 PM
WalterM140
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Default Bush Flew Fighter Jets During Vietnam

To put it in perspective, here are 9 ways Bush got favored treatment in the
service due to his political connections (he
was then son of a Congressman and grandson of a former Senator):

1) He got into the Guard by pulling strings, avoiding the year and a half
waiting list;
http://www.realchange.org/bushjr.htm#got in

2) He took a 2-month vacation in Florida after just 8 weeks, (1 of 3 leaves),
to
work on a political campaign;
http://www.realchange.org/bushjr.htm#firstleave

3) Bush skipped Officer Candidate School and got a special commission as a
2nd
Lieutenant, without qualifications;
http://www.realchange.org/bushjr.htm#2ndLt

4) He was assigned to a safe plane (being phased out of active service), the
F-102 ;
http://www.realchange.org/bushjr.htm#f102

5) During flight school, he was flown on a government jet to Washington for a
date with President Nixon's daughter Tricia ;
http://www.realchange.org/bushjr.htm#date

6) Bush got an illegal transfer (later overruled) to a base with no work;
http://www.realchange.org/bushjr.htm#moreleave

7) He simply didn't show up for a YEAR, AWOL with no penalty;
http://www.realchange.org/bushjr.htm#AWOL

8) George W. skipped all his medical exams after they started drug tests, and
was removed from flight status;
http://www.realchange.org/bushjr.htm#drugtest

9) He ended his service 10 months early to go to Harvard Business School;
http://www.realchange.org/bushjr.htm#discharge









To put it in perspective, here are 9 ways Bush got favored treatment in the
service due to his political connections (he
was then son of a Congressman and grandson of a former Senator):

1) He got into the Guard by pulling strings, avoiding the year and a half
waiting list;
http://www.realchange.org/bushjr.htm#got in

2) He took a 2-month vacation in Florida after just 8 weeks, (1 of 3 leaves),
to
work on a political campaign;
http://www.realchange.org/bushjr.htm#firstleave

3) Bush skipped Officer Candidate School and got a special commission as a
2nd
Lieutenant, without qualifications;
http://www.realchange.org/bushjr.htm#2ndLt

4) He was assigned to a safe plane (being phased out of active service), the
F-102 ;
http://www.realchange.org/bushjr.htm#f102

5) During flight school, he was flown on a government jet to Washington for a
date with President Nixon's daughter Tricia ;
http://www.realchange.org/bushjr.htm#date

6) Bush got an illegal transfer (later overruled) to a base with no work;
http://www.realchange.org/bushjr.htm#moreleave

7) He simply didn't show up for a YEAR, AWOL with no penalty;
http://www.realchange.org/bushjr.htm#AWOL

8) George W. skipped all his medical exams after they started drug tests, and
was removed from flight status;
http://www.realchange.org/bushjr.htm#drugtest

9) He ended his service 10 months early to go to Harvard Business School;
http://www.realchange.org/bushjr.htm#discharge


I got a link not found message.

Someone may have hacked the site. That's what they've done to michaelmoore.com
also.

But good work.

Walt
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Old July 9th 04, 12:11 AM
Krztalizer
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I believe that is the first time I have heard of the F-102 as a "safe
aircraft"! Were they really?

v/r
Gordon
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Old July 9th 04, 02:36 AM
miket6065
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They were so "safe" that the design was redesigned into the F106 to fix all
the problems.

MikeT


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Old July 9th 04, 03:33 AM
Ian MacLure
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"miket6065" wrote in
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They were so "safe" that the design was redesigned into the F106 to
fix all the problems.


Safety wasn't the problem. Drag was. The F-102 was supposed to be
a supersonic aircraft but wasn't good for much beyond Mach 1.
Area ruling and an increase in power gave us the F-106, easily
capable of Mach 2.

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Old July 9th 04, 03:50 AM
Steven P. McNicoll
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"Ian MacLure" wrote in message
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Safety wasn't the problem. Drag was. The F-102 was supposed to be
a supersonic aircraft but wasn't good for much beyond Mach 1.


That would make it a supersonic aircraft.



Area ruling and an increase in power gave us the F-106, easily
capable of Mach 2.


The F-102A was area ruled.


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Old July 9th 04, 05:17 AM
Ron
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A lot more dangerous over enemy territory than over Texas. Believe me. I
have
flown over both.


What is your opinion of someone who gets a pilot slot in the guard, as opposed
to someone who enters active duty infantry or naval forces, in the present day.




Ron
PA-31T Cheyenne II
Maharashtra Weather Modification Program
Pune, India

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Old July 9th 04, 10:40 AM
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I believe that is the first time I have heard of the F-102 as a "safe
aircraft"! Were they really?


As Ed Rasimus has said: "Every time you kick the tires and light the
fire in a single-engine, single-seat Century Series jet, it can kill
you--all by itself without help from an enemy."
www.warbirdforum.com/bushf102.htm

There is a page by Walt BJ (based on his posts on this newsgroup) at
http://www.warbirdforum.com/waltbj.htm


all the best -- Dan Ford
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