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Co-pilot gets sick, stewardess helps land airplane
William Black writes:
Have you ever been at the controls of a real aircraft when it has been in the air? No. |
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Co-pilot gets sick, stewardess helps land airplane
JohnT writes:
Which, of course, you have never ever done. In simulation, often. In real life, never. |
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Co-pilot gets sick, stewardess helps land airplane
Hatunen writes:
It's not a license. A license is permission to do something. A certificate attests to something. So it is both a license (because it allows a person to fly) and a certificate (because it attests to that authorization). No nanoscopic angels dance upon it, however. |
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Co-pilot gets sick, stewardess helps land airplane
On 22/06/10 12:57, Mxsmanic wrote:
William Black writes: Have you ever been at the controls of a real aircraft when it has been in the air? No. End of story really, she has... -- William Black These are the gilded popinjays and murderous assassins of Perfidious Albion and they are about their Queen's business. Any man who impedes their passage does so at his own peril. |
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Co-pilot gets sick, stewardess helps land airplane
William Black writes:
End of story really, she has... That's an extremely simplistic viewpoint. It's a bit like saying that anyone who has ever driven any type of car can automatically drive any type of road vehicle, while simultaneously saying that anyone who hasn't been behind the wheel of a car cannot possible know how to drive one. Both notions are baseless. |
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Co-pilot gets sick, stewardess helps land airplane
On Jun 22, 8:33*am, Mxsmanic wrote:
William Black writes: End of story really, *she has... That's an extremely simplistic viewpoint. It's a bit like saying that anyone who has ever driven any type of car can automatically drive any type of road vehicle, while simultaneously saying that anyone who hasn't been behind the wheel of a car cannot possible know how to drive one. Both notions are baseless. Dont' you do the same thing saying you simulating flying is the same as flying a real plane?????????? So in other words everything you post is baseless since you have never flown a real plane????????? |
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Co-pilot gets sick, stewardess helps land airplane
On 22/06/10 14:33, Mxsmanic wrote:
William Black writes: End of story really, she has... That's an extremely simplistic viewpoint. It's a bit like saying that anyone who has ever driven any type of car can automatically drive any type of road vehicle, while simultaneously saying that anyone who hasn't been behind the wheel of a car cannot possible know how to drive one. Both notions are baseless. No, it's like saying that anyone who has driven any car knows a great deal more about driving than someone who has played driving games on a personal computer, no matter how sophisticated. Now I don't know about where you live, which I seem to remember is a cupboard in Paris, but here they don't let you take your driving test on your PC. They tend to insist that you get your arse in a car and drive one around town to make sure you do actually know what you're doing. Same with aircraft, they don't actually issue a pilots license to anyone unless they actually get in an aircraft and show someone that they can fly the bloody thing. -- William Black These are the gilded popinjays and murderous assassins of Perfidious Albion and they are about their Queen's business. Any man who impedes their passage does so at his own peril. |
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Co-pilot gets sick, stewardess helps land airplane
William Black writes:
No, it's like saying that anyone who has driven any car knows a great deal more about driving than someone who has played driving games on a personal computer, no matter how sophisticated. But that is also an incorrect statement. If only real flying experience were important, then nobody would ever use simulators. In fact, if someone wants to fly a 747, he is better off flying a simulator of a 747 than he is flying a Cessna 152. While the simulation isn't the same as flying a 747 for real, it's a lot closer than the real-world experience of a Cessna 172 would be. |
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Co-pilot gets sick, stewardess helps land airplane
Mxsmanic wrote:
The United States is governed by civilian law, not martial law. The military cannot simply do whatever it wants. No one but you ever even implied such a thing. The military has its own system for operation and maintenance of military equipment totally separate from the civilian system. During normal times, when the miltary operates in the civilian envirionment, the miltitary obeys civilian rules, e.g. a military convoy on civilian roads obeys the civilian speed limit. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. |
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Co-pilot gets sick, stewardess helps land airplane
In rec.aviation.piloting Mxsmanic wrote:
William Black writes: No, it's like saying that anyone who has driven any car knows a great deal more about driving than someone who has played driving games on a personal computer, no matter how sophisticated. But that is also an incorrect statement. No, it is not unless the simulator is so realistic it is impossible to tell the difference between the simulation and reality and such simulators do not exist. If only real flying experience were important, then nobody would ever use simulators. In fact, if someone wants to fly a 747, he is better off flying a simulator of a 747 than he is flying a Cessna 152. While the simulation isn't the same as flying a 747 for real, it's a lot closer than the real-world experience of a Cessna 172 would be. Delusional tunnel vision. Flying a real airplane requires a broad set of skills and knowledge which is why in the real world the individual skills are taught in varied environments best suited for teaching the task at hand, i.e. the cockpit of a C172, a desk, a light twin, a 747 simulator, a real 747, to name just a few. Each has its own part in generating the total sum of skills. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. |
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