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Problem there. He deserves no more special treatment than you or I.
I don't know where you're going with this. As far as the plane with the US president goes, I don't have a problem with him getting special treatment, due to security considerations. Where I'm "going with this" is he's not feeling the effects of his own syndicate's takeover of civil liberties. It is not acceptible to ground civilian traffic in order for him to come into a town in order to garnish support. |
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"RLB" wrote in message ...
I don't know about that. If I remember correctly from the National Geographic presentation, half the reason they retired their 707 was because it couldn't carry all the people they wanted to carry comfortably. Not to mention, I doubt you could turn a 20 passenger jet into the mobile White House like the current jet. They also have two of them that don't fly much and will probably be around for many many years to come. I'm willing to bet the next Airforce One will be an aircraft that's not even on the drawling board yet. It will probably be 50+ years before replacements are in order. Could be longer than that. By then, it will depend entirely upon what existing airframes are available. It is possible that it could be an airframe designed for that purpose. More likely it could be an airframe intended to replace the C-5/C-17 class of aircraft. "Montblack" wrote in message .. . Wrong (IMHO). The next AF1 will be small and VERY fast. 20 people, tops! This isn't all that far afield, depending upon the direction that the aircraft industry in general goes. New sonic boom resistant designs, etc. Mach 2+ a minimum to enter the bidding. [snip] Might be a tad fast, but Mach 1+ might be a consideration. |
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"Doug" wrote in message ... Dwight Eisenhower was a pilot and flew a Rockwell Commander while he was president. Rode or piloted? I am not sure if it was actually considered Air Force One. This was, of course in the 1950's. The use of the call sign Air Force One began during the Eisenhower administration. |
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"John Harlow" wrote in message ... Problem there. He deserves no more special treatment than you or I. I don't know where you're going with this. As far as the plane with the US president goes, I don't have a problem with him getting special treatment, due to security considerations. Where I'm "going with this" is he's not feeling the effects of his own syndicate's takeover of civil liberties. It is not acceptible to ground civilian traffic in order for him to come into a town in order to garnish support. Neither the President nor members of Congress ever really feal the effects of their own actions. They might act more in the interest of the nation rather than themselves if they did. |
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"TMOliver" wrote ...
Of course, just as an S3 Viking became Navy1 for a while and USMC helos are frequently Marine1, any old Coast Guard C130 could be Coast Guard1 in a pinch. I think the correct term for the Coastie's aircraft in that case would be "Puddle 1"... |
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message rthlink.net...
Maybe. When the President is aboard a military aircraft, the name of the military service is stated, followed by the word "One." But is the USCG truly a military service? While it has the look and feel of the military, it isn't part of the Department of Defense. Correct, up to a point: The USCG is part of the Dept. of Homeland Security, formerly part of the Dept. of Transportation. However it is a military (i.e. armed forces) service. Coast Guardsmen fought on D-Day and in Vietnam, many lost their lives. Good official history: http://www.uscg.mil/hq/g-cp/history/faqs/when.html Best, Tim K |
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message rthlink.net...
Maybe. When the President is aboard a military aircraft, the name of the military service is stated, followed by the word "One." But is the USCG truly a military service? While it has the look and feel of the military, it isn't part of the Department of Defense. During time of declared war (this isn't, despite 'war' designations), the Coast Guard becomes part of the DoD, specifically the US Navy, unless this has changed since the CG moved over to the DoHS from DoT recently... That's what I recall, anyway. I don't have proof of this, I could be wrong. Best Regards, Bill Mattocks |
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message thlink.net... If a T-41 was used to transport the President it would still be Air Force One and given priority handling. If it were an Air Force aircraft, at least. Bob M. |
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"TMOliver" wrote in message .. . I can see it now....next AF1 built by a reincarnation of the preWWII Polish PZL (with electrical system by Lucas...) Naw....Zeppelin is starting to make airships again....:-) Bob M. |
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message thlink.net... Maybe. When the President is aboard a military aircraft, the name of the military service is stated, followed by the word "One." But is the USCG truly a military service? While it has the look and feel of the military, it isn't part of the Department of Defense. It's part of the Dept. of Transportation. So it'd be called "Transport One"? |
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