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Old September 20th 04, 09:55 PM
Mark Test
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"Doug "Woody" and Erin Beal" wrote in message
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On 9/19/04 8:44 AM, in article ,
"R. David Steele" /OMEGA wrote:

The biggest area is the MI analyst and counter intelligence
agent. Both are officer functions in the Navy. The Army uses CI
NCOs and Warrants, in NIS is almost all officers. The same for
Army CID work.

But even at an infantry platoon level, the NCOs take on decision
making that it seems in the Navy is done by the division officer.
The Chiefs may supervise but are just not the leaders that Army
NCOs are.


I don't know what your background is, but you obviously haven't seen CPO's
in action.

Navy Chiefs are some of the most empowered decision makers in all of the
armed services. Naval officers RELY on their chiefs... Those that don't

are
bound to fail.

--Woody


Hmmm depends on where you're at. I've seen CPO messes that ran the ship's
routine, from writing the watch bills, assigning PQS, deciding who the next
helmsman will be, the next OSL, etc., Additionally, making on the spot
decisions regarding discipline matters.

Howerver, the chain of command is not always there to back up and
support the CPO(s). This is part of the problem. Trust me until I screw
up, then second guess me. Wardrooms tend to second guess and question
right off the bat. I handle it by doing the job my way, apparently I now
have
to "earn" the trust of some "Ensign", but if I do it right, he'll see that
he can
always trust, and depend on the Chief, so when he moves on he'll
hopefully listen to his next Chief.

(stepping off soap box now)

HAFND,

Mark