"Bob Gardner" wrote in message
news:nBSqb.141282$e01.473457@attbi_s02...
This gets back to the discussion/controversy about "do" lists versus
"check"
lists....students are taught to use the list as a "do" list, which
requires
taking an action (or touching a control) for each item on the list. With
experience, pilots graduate to a "check" list, where they use a flow
pattern
or other method to do what needs to be done, and then refer to the list as
a
"Have I forgotten anything?" reminder.

Bob Gardner
Good point! guess I assumed that by " full before landing checklist" while
"doing pattern work" meant a written one. Seems that the discussion has
devolved into a debate on mnemonics and various rituals while preparing to
land, ok sounds like everyone agrees that something needs to be done; for
example the seat belt issue. Most usually take care of this item before
descent and not in the pattern. As I recall wasn't the original question
related to " doing pattern work"? Sure, pilots need a way to remember
important items for critical phases of operations; mixture is a good example
but the procedures need to be tailored to the aircraft. In a 172 we never
instruct "mixture----Rich but mixture---Set or as req. in our 210 landing at
high alt airports such as Big Bear or Tahoe etc we use full rich(turbo) I
still think that in the pattern all non critical items have been complied
with before and the pilot should only attend critical items and not be
reading a list. Although there are always differences, I sense that most
single pilots operations use a checklist as a "have I forgotten anythig?".
R.Wallace
"mrwallace" wrote in message
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"BoDEAN" wrote in message
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How many people do / teach doing a full before landing checklist when
doing pattern work? I do with my students, but other cfi's I work with
use a quick / abbreviated one for our Cessna 172/152