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Old November 13th 03, 06:00 PM
Ron Natalie
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"Bob Noel" wrote in message ...
In article , "Ron
Natalie" wrote:

They are making an example of them, they just have not been holding the
executions in public. They have also been going against leaseback owners
whose planes are involved. Your ignorance of what is happening accross
the country is overwhelming.


If "they" are not doing public executions, than why bust someone's
chops for being "ignorant"? We should all know about the things
that aren't made public knowledge?


Why is Jay busting pilots chops for violoating pathetically poorly announced
restrictions then? He was the one who came here bitching about the incursions.
This whole thing is happening under the table and via
the NOTAM system which is pathetically the most inane way of dissenminating
information. It is vastly overlooked by pilots and FSS professionals. ATC hasn't
a clue either. I've had IFR's cleared into the FRZ which resulted in pilot violations
as well.

The ADIZ should be on the charts.
The NOTAM plain text should be in the AF/D.
The remarks section of every airport inside the ADIZ/FRZ should reference
the appropriate NOTAM.

Crikely, these things are printed on short enough cycles that THE standard, most
used preplanning publications contain them.