On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 22:22:57 GMT, Martin Hotze
wrote:

besides: this was the last time the USA declared war.

I think y'all are going to have to recognize that formal declarations
of war are not going to happen anymore. The mess of WWI and WWII,
drawing *everyone* into the conflict because of cross-alliances,
taught us all that formal declarations only make the conflict bigger.

If the troops are ordered moved or deployed, and the Congress funds it
before or after the fact, that's your declaration. Lump it. :-(

(And don't get *me* wrong. When the bullets fly, I'm mourning too.)

Roosevelt was one of the
principal founders of the United Nations, after all.

but the UN had nothing to do with our peace treaty (at least: we had one,
Germany had none)

I wasn't thinking of the Austrian peace treaty, about which I really
have no opinion, except to be glad that it was a free nation. (And may
I say, a couple of your border guards can be real martinets.)

first troops to free Vienna where Russian troops.

They liberated Vienna, but Austria and Vienna were both partitioned
among the Allies. Seeds of that UN thing again.

Rob