"Bob Webster" wrote in message
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Ahh... technique. That's why I can't find any landmarks to determine the
eastern edge of the Miami class B airspace.

As far as I know, that edge is not defined by a VOR radial. In any case,
the real issue here is whether you can determine the right approach
frequency to use without a VOR receiver. If you have no landmarks with
which to navigate, you'd darn well better be using *something* to know where
you are, and that includes when you are out over open water.

Even if that's just a clock and a compass, the original point -- that you do
NOT need to have a VOR receiver in order to determine what approach
frequency to use, or even to identify the general location of VOR radials --
is completely correct.

All that said, I'm puzzled why you bothered to reply to this portion of the
thread. Everyone else understands the basic point regarding whether it
matters whether the sectors for approach frequencies are based relative to
the airport or VOR (that is, it doesn't matter), and I would've thought that
everyone else would understand that having a VOR receiver is not a
requirement for knowing where you are on your chart relative to other
objects on the chart.

The only reason *I* am even bothering to reply to Steve is that I enjoy
watching his pathological need to twist an argument until something falls
out that he can eat. He is 100% predictable, and it makes a fun side-show.
Why are YOU joining in, especially since your point doesn't do anything to
contradict what I've said?

Pete