roger that.. and on the touch and go.. flaps up.. look over both shoulder
for movement or "verify both up".. then power up..

BT

"Brian Burger" wrote in message
.tc.ca...
On Tue, 17 Aug 2004, BTIZ wrote:

I've been looking over my shoulder at Cessna flaps on retract during
touch
and goes for 30 yrs... when did they stop teaching "verify"

'They' haven't, at least as of 2002 at my (Canadian) flying club. Shoulder
check one side in flight, and when you're putting the flaps back up after
engine start, check *both* sides to make sure they're moving in synch.

Brian.


BT

"Roger Long" wrote in message
...
One of the more experienced pilots in our club scared himself climbing
out
of a touch and go during which he didn't notice that the flaps had
frozen
at
20 degrees on our 172.

I've been investigating the flap system on Cessna's and am impressed
how
easily a bit of fluff or corrosion in just one switch can let the
flaps go
down but then fail to retract.

This leaves me convinced that CFI's and all of us should be drilling
in
the
glance over the shoulder to verify retraction on all touch and goes
and go
arounds. Practicing climb outs from minimum airspeed with all flap
settings
is a very neglected part of airwork and probably as important to
safety as
doing stalls.

--

Roger Long