I live on a private airstrip within the Mode C veil of DFW. We have 3 Piper
Cubs based here and they have been flying without an electrical system or
transponder, within the 30nm veil but underneath the Class B airspace, for
many, many years. Stay out of class B and you'll be OK.

Mike

"bcjames" wrote in message
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john smith wrote:

http://members.eaa.org/home/homebuil...o%20Radio%20No
%20Transponder%20Operations%20in%20Class%20D%20Air space%20in%20a%20Mode%20C%
20Veil.html

That link's mostly about flying in the veil, not in the veil
under the outer ring or under an outer ring where there is
no veil. I'd feel a bit more comfortable if I got some more
opinions from the "FAR experts" here before I go challenging
a designated examiner.