"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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C J Campbell wrote:

BTW, has Kerry said he would lift even one single security
restriction put
in place by the Bush administration, or is he still saying that Bush
has not
gone far enough?

He is quoted by AOPA as telling them "Increased domestic security is
now a fact of
life, but I think that the government has a responsibility to see that
the effect on
businesses and individuals is minimized."

You have to just LOVE these ambigious statements from politicians that
say nothing....achieve nothing....and insult your intelligence if you
let the statement go unchallanged :-)
"Tell us Mr. Politician, how MUCH increase....and increased over what
base value? And define "minimized" please Mr. Politician.......minimized
to what level........against what base value? Exactly how much domestic
security is in place now over what was there before, and how effective
is that security? Define the exact effects on businesses please?

The plain simple fact that people seem to either ignore or forget when
getting all fired up about national security issues and who's "right's"
will be trampled on is the fact that in a totally free society, there is
no such thing as national security. It's impossible by
definition...period!
Any viable action taken by a government authority that even remotely
begins to address a WORKABLE scenario in a national security context
will mean that government control will replace individual "rights".
It's the classic "you can't have it both ways" thing. You either have
total freedom or you have national security.
Right now in the United States, what we have are politicians desperately
caught between a public they are sworn to defend and who are screaming
at them 24 hours a day to take action that will protect them, and the
same public screaming at them 24 hours a day that the actions they
absolutely must take to even begin to address the national security
issues are violating their individual rights.
The result has been the Patriot Act good or bad, wide open borders, an
attempt at airport security that seems to hassle old ladies more than it
guarantees the capture of terrorists, and a whole gaggle of people on
these newsgroups who, just like the rest of the country, don't
understand that national security and individual rights can't exist on
the same page at the same point in time in a free society.
Argue on for all the good it will do :-)
Dudley Henriques
International Fighter Pilots Fellowship
Flight Instructor/Aerobatics/Retired