In article ,
Roger wrote:

On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 13:59:04 -0800, "Peter Duniho"
wrote:

"Chris" wrote in message
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[...]
With the 182, it is 80 knots turning from the 45 to downwind, 75 on base,
and 70
on final. I don't understand why pushing the prop to full flat has any
noise
effect whatsoever.

Exactly

Exactly, except for those airplanes that cannot maintain level flight at
pattern speed with gear and flaps out at final descent power settings.


You should hear me on a circle to land. Gear out, bout 20-25 deg of
flaps and go to cruise power until within about 30 degrees of the
landing runway heading. Then back to about 12" and full flaps. Turning
with everything hanging out while maintaining altitude takes about
22-23" of MP at 2400 RPM. At that power setting and low altitude
~500' AGL I try to keep it over the airport for the full circle to
land.

I much prefer the 360 overhead pattern:

1) flying at cruise down the runway at pattern altitude from about 2
miles out (Initial) to just past the threshold,

2) break to downwind (traffic permitting), pulling power as you break,

3) Keeping at least 45 deg bank, drop gear and flaps when appropriate
speed is reached (usually at the 180 deg point),

4) slow to approach speed, while turning and keeping TD point in sight,

5) touch down on full 3-point attitude on the numbers.

Properly done, you don't add power any time after the break -- it is a
continuous circle to touchdown. It is the easiest way to recover a
formation -- each plane breaks at 2 - 4 second intervals. I do this all
the time in my Johnson Rocket; I have done it in a Zlin 242 and a
friend's big-engined T-34. The whole "pattern is within a 1/4 to 1/2
mile of the runway.

Prop goes in when you reach approach speed.