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Old December 12th 04, 12:45 AM
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Maule Driver wrote:
What you said. I love the thing about being near an airport not
guaranteeing anything. I've watched 2 a/c balled up by pilots who

knew
better but tried to strech a glide to the runway.

But maybe you want to clarify 'precision landing practice'.

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In response to that, I've started a whole new thread for Precision
Landings. I've been thinking about them and your comments regarding
rough fields, furrows, etc. A good topic to really get involved with.
Cheers
Ol Shy & Bashful

From another thread:
"I managed 8 touch and goes within the space of .8 hours

....(deleted)....
I'm
all about the zen of the approach. I really like bringing it in over
the end of the runway, with the airplane at the same height each

time.
Touching down long, if I've blown the approach, is points against me
in my mind. In fact I thought about landing long on the last landing
simply to reduce taxiing because we were using 36 for landings today
and the FBO is at the north end of the runway. But even when I

wanted
to land long, I found myself reverting to type and touched down

before
the majority of the tire marks."

That isn't real useful practice for off-field or emergency landings.

I
would suggest that one needs to practice non-standard approaches to
different touchdown points. Over obstacles, without obstacles, wind,

etc
Sitting in the home approach doing touch and gos with all the speeds,
turnpoints, and sight pictures locked in does not prepare you to put

it on a
curving road with power lines and reflectors. Or an atheletic field.

Let
alone the fine points of whether you should land with the furrows or
against them. Or why you should really focus on that out building

that you
aren't going to hit (because there is probably a power line running

to it
that you will hit).

I come at this from glider outlandings where I've logged just under

50.
Selway - I can't imagine your career.

Nothing concentrates the mind like silence at 500ft.

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Adam
My feelings are that too many pilots can't land well under stress
anyway and NEVER practice precision landings. With an emergency,

you've
got lots of stress and often limited areas to land....most of which
will require a precision landing to minimize the damage potential

to
occupants. (This for an off airport landing of course.)
With thousands of hours crop dusting and operating off marginal

strips
I've had ample opportunity to pass that information and experience

to
the pilots and students I fly with.
Just to have an airport close by does not automatically mean you

can
dead stick it and walk away a hero. That nasty STRESS factor raises

its
head and screws up what could have been a very Ho-Hum landing and a
push or tow to the maintenance area. I've made hundreds (if not
thousands) of off airport landings with airplanes and only wrinkled

one
aircraft in the process but when the engine failed it was only

about
200'agl and not many options. OTOH, I've had engine failures during

a
spray run and got it down OK just thinking ahead of what I was

doing.
If you are concerned, there is no reason why you can't limp from
airport to airport just in case you have an engine failure. Better

safe
than sorry but it sure will limit where you go and what you see!
I'd rather spend some time on precision landings just in case you

have
to do an off airport touchdown.
Fly safe and enjoy it.
Ol Shy & Bashful