Badwater Bill wrote:


as a past participant in the local ToastMasters group, I would surely
like to see Bush join a group for a month or two,

it would certainly improve his image as a person,,,,,,,,,

I wish he had the time to do so,,,,,,,,,

I've watched his speeches a few times, and feel a bit sorry for
him,,,,,,,,

I do feel he has the countries best interests at heart,,,,,,,,,


So do I. I just think he's a power monger along with it. I watched
him last night on CBS when confronted with the negative Kerry bashing.
He tried to say that he was against the ads but stuttered and tripped
up so badly (because it was extemporaneous) that he appeared to be
either lying or at least concealing his real feelings. Unless he
practices, he comes across very poorly when hit by the media "on the
spot."

People who aren't power mongers don't aspire to the presidency! :-)


And... the satellite intel showed 18 wheelers leaving the backs of
palaces as the UN inspectors drove up to the front doors. Saddam was
trying to make it look like he had a lot to hide. He was ****ing with
the wrong people and it cost him.

Yes, I wonder also if he wasn't just staging an elaborate bluff, never
dreaming that Bush would call it.


After reading all the books I can get my hands on about what led up to
this, I'm afraid that I would have made the same decision to go take
out Saddam that Bush made. That brutal 8th century barbarian needed
to be stopped. I just think the price we are paying right now in
human life is too high. We need to get the **** out of there and
leave that ****-hole to the rats who live there.

I don't know if I would have made the same decision or not, but that is
no longer relevant. The trouble is if we cut and run now, it is very
probably that one of two things will happen: Another Saddam will emerge
and secure power the same way Saddam the first did, or the Islamic
clerics will take over as in Iran. Neither outcome is very desirable
and would make the war, and all of the lives lost, a complete waste. To
me, that is even a higher price to pay than what we are paying now. I
just don't see a really good solution in the short term.


Matt