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Old August 25th 03, 07:39 PM
Paul Lynch
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Some interesting points. I do not agree with a transition pilot requiring a
90-day additional endorsement. The addtional 90-day endorsement is
specifically for student pilots (note the section of the CFR that must be
quoted). A transition pilot is not a student pilot. It doesn't matter if
they are transitioning from airplane to glider or single-engine to
multi-engine.

FSDOs have notoriously enforced the various CFRs in various, and even
bizarre ways. There are many inconsistencies from FSDO to FSDO. Our
particular FSDO (Richmond VA) concurs that any kind of transition pilot is
not a student pilot, as is pointed out in the FAQs (non-regulatory, but
generally good guidance). Our FSDO says a solo endorsement with
restrictions is a legally binding restriction on the student/transition
pilot.

So who won the fight of the PIC, the FSDO or the DPE? Since the DPE works
for the FSDO....

".." wrote in message
om...
ADP wrote:
Boy, despite Lynch's interpretation, I see no way around the

requirements of
14 CFR 61.56(c).
Certainly, a reading of 14 CFR 61.31(d)(3) does not seem to negate

61.56(c).

The Flight Review can take place in any "aircraft" for which the pilot

is
rated.

As an aside, it would certainly seem that by the time a pilot is signed

off
for solo he or she would meet or surpass any requirements for a Flight
Review.


Allan

"Todd Pattist" wrote in message
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Judy Ruprecht wrote:



here's
what FAA's Part 61 FAQ has to say on the topic:






The Flight review is only applicable to aircraft the pilot is rated for.
If the power pilot has been soloed but is not rated in glider then
they cannot get a flight review in a glider. In fact they are required
to get a 90 check, just like solo students, therefore a flight review is
not applicable. They carry a logbook solo endorsement in glider and are
limited to the gliders listed in the endorsement etc etc. Once the pilot
is glider rated however, they have taken and passed the practical and
the FAA has endorsed the back of their certificate for glider, they can
take the flight reviews in a glider and it carries over.

While the power pilot is "soloed" not rated in the glider they are
operating under the restrictions of a student while in the glider. If
they need a flight review they will have to obtain it in a power aircraft.

Been there done that .. when I was getting my power certificate I had
been glider rated for many years. The FSDO at the time, face to face
with the power instructor present, infomed me that I was not a student
pilot during the training and could log solo time as PIC. This was
before solo student could do that. I wasn't too sure but why would we
not beleive what the FSDO says. When it came time for my practical the
examiner had a fit .. no way was I supposed to be logging PIC.. so I had
to go back and redo the log entries while the examiner called into the
FSDO .. more of a hassle that anything else .. As was posted above ..
the FDSO does not interpret CFRs and if they do and you get snagged ..
you will still be found at fault ..

Whether the soloed pilot exceeds FR requirements may or may not be true
.. many I have found would at least meet them. But it is not relavent
as the soloed non rated pilot is not elegible for a flight review in a
glider until rated.

R Schutte CFIG