At 13:12 27 April 2004, Michael wrote:
'Vaughn' wrote

Did you know that the F-104 Starfighter not only would
not recover
from a spin, but would not recover from a stall either?
A stall would
immediately lead to a departure from controlled flight,
generally
unrecoverable. Yet it had quite a career.

Michael

As does the Jaguar still and it suffers from the same
problem. The Tornado would be the same if not for SPILLS
(a system that will not allow the aircraft to stall/spin)
and I believe an F16 is not flyable if the computer
system fails, it is so unstable the only way of keeping
it flying is with the computer system. Unstable = very
manoeuverable. All the above are combat aircraft, different
concept entirely.