"Fred E. Pate" wrote in message
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Don't they have to state the destination? "N123BB is cleared to ____ as
filed, departure frequency 123.45, squawk 5554." Or something like that.


Yes, a clearance limit is still required, as is an altitude. But the route
itself does not have to be stated, so stumbling over lat/longs is not a
reason for ATC to have an aversion to lat/longs.