Personal opinions of Mr. Koresh aside, does anyone remember the dog and pony
show put on after Iran Air 655? Much of the same stuff, and if you look into
the facts, not only was it actually a unarmed air carrier, the commanders of
British vessels present never wondered about the identity of the flight and
let us not forget our friends in the CIA for helping with the murder of a
missionary and her infant. So an innocent american splattered in the ADIZ
for getting lost would hardly ruffle a feather amongst the population when
they got done.
In the USA I remember, all of them folks would be swinging from the same
rope we would have used for the a**h**es that took out our aircraft in Sept.
if they would have survived.

"George Patterson" wrote in message
news:LvJxe.6154$mr4.2471@trnddc05...
Jay Honeck wrote:

Well, George, this is now the third (?) time

I think you need to learn to count.

So, let's hear 'em. What made the "nutcases" at Waco and Ruby Ridge so
noble, in your view?

I didn't say anything about nobility, but everything *you* "know" about
them has
been provided you by the people who killed them. In the case of Ruby
Ridge,
there were adult survivors. After hearing the facts from all sides,
Congress
told the head of the FBI to change their procedures immediately and
"rethink"
their policies. The survivors were aquitted of the accusation which had
been
used to "justify" the assault (I use the term in the military sense) and
awarded
substantial monetary damages.

What we have in these two cases were citizens who were brutally attacked
and
(mostly) killed by Federal agents and slandered during and after the fact.
This
is exactly what would happen to a pilot who was shot down in the ADIZ. By
the
time the facts came out (if they ever did), most of the people in the
country
would believe that you were a known Al-Quaida agent and that the plane was
certainly carrying half a ton of TNT.

George Patterson
Why do men's hearts beat faster, knees get weak, throats become dry,
and they think irrationally when a woman wears leather clothing?
Because she smells like a new truck.