How about we leave it at this:

"If a pilot isn't 100% sure of his ability to ded reckon (or dead reckon, if
you prefer the Elizabethan spelling) with a chart, a stopwatch, and a
compass, he should not penetrate the ADIZ without using modern navigational
equipment."

There. I've eliminated the dreaded term "GPS", to which you seem to have a
pathological aversion...

;-)

NOW can we agree?

Almost. Noting that VORs are modern, including pilotage in with dead
reckoning (yes, I prefer the original spelling and taking a slightly
smaller value of "100%" (nothing is truely certain), I agree.

I will further state however that if a pilot isn't "almost 100%" sure of
his ability to navigate using pilotage or dead reckoning with a chart, a
stopwatch, and a compass, then maybe he shouldn't be up there in the
first place, ADIZ or not. Granted, we both apply higher standards to
any complex airspace with consequences, but it's a basic piloting skill
whose value is being needlessly denegrated.

Jose
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