Jay,
I am afraid there is nothing you can say to make some folks see things.
We all know there are those that think standing around holding hands and
singing Kumbaya will keep us from ever having an attack here again. The ADIZ
is here and I think to stay. Wish it were not so. In order to put a stop to
it I would suggest these folks use all of this anger and energy about the
situation to really do something about it. I am sure the US military would
love to have that pent up emotion unleashed on the enemy on a battlefield.
Talking to a Congressman probably will not do much, join the military and
destroy the enemy so it's no longer thought to be needed. Just a thought!
Good Luck on your debate Jay!

Patrick
student SPL
aircraft structural mech

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:Rmcze.130414$_o.74441@attbi_s71...
You continue to miss the whole point of where this thread went. It's not
a
question of whether we ought to obey the existing restrictions. It's a
question of whether we ought to sit by and just let the restrictions
happen
without complaint.

Thank you for putting it succinctly and bluntly.

Sadly, as usual, Peter "put it" neither succinctly nor bluntly. In fact,
he missed the point entirely.

We should be protesting the airspace restrictions at every level of
government possible -- short of busting the ADIZ. At no point have I
suggested otherwise; I have merely explained the utterly logical rationale
behind the imposition of airspace restrictions after 9/11.

The fact that I apparently must explain the reasons for the restrictions
quite frankly scares me.

Here's the bottom line: It matters not if the ADIZ is truly effective --
it is PERCEIVED by the general public as effective. Those who fail to
understand the reasons for the restrictions have NO chance of getting them
rescinded. You can keep calling a duck a chicken, but the rest of the
world will just think your dumb -- and the duck will continue on as if
nothing has happened. You will have done nothing to further your cause
without understanding the opposition.

Pilots who continue to bust the ADIZ are individually -- and with
malice -- signing our death warrant. If we're going to fight this thing,
we're going to have to be smarter than their actions would indicate we
are -- and THAT is the real tragedy here.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"