"cjcampbell"

crap

The gods of organized religions couldn't sit down with a small committee of
the people they claim to rule and decide what to eat for breakfast. It's a
crock.

Now, perhaps you are irreligious, and do not believe in free will. I
would grant you the right to believe and do as you see best. The poem
still makes its point, even if speaking of God in a figurative sense.
By what right has anyone to claim that they are the captain of their
soul? Or perhaps you believe in no god, but believe in free will. On
what basis then do you believe in free will? If, in the end, we are all
space dust, what does it matter what any of us do, or think, or say?

It matters to ourselves and to each other. Clearly. No god is required to
validate the existence of anything.

then are but passing mites upon a vast and infinite stage. No one then
cares what you or I think, or whether we were the captains of our
souls. You may as well ask the rocks their opinion of race, or the
stars what they think of cabbages.

You really do love this obtuse crap when trying to make a point. In this
case, it's that life's worthless without the fighting hairy thunderer show.
That's clearly untrue as evidenced by the millions who do not believe in a
personal god that meddles in daily affairs or explains why girraffes have
long necks.

And, in any event, O captain of your soul, what of parents or teachers
or all others who have helped you along throughout your life? Are you
truly independent? Were you born without parents? Fed without farmers?
Clothed without textile workers? Housed without lumberjacks?

No. I chose to avail myself of their knowledge and aid and they were
compensated for it. Or, they did it for their own reasons. I wasn't a
parasite. And I see nothing inconsistent with living a mostly independent
life and happiness for oneself and friends.

Some people are lost without a personal god. And they're not all bad. But
most that argue that others should be drive me nuts when they use their
faith to **** on those who don't believe in the same cosmic muffin or one at
all.

moo