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How can you read this and say that it is consistent with what you and
Bob are saying.

He can say that, because it is.

In the above scenario, Pilot A does not have a current
medical, BFR or required endosements, but he can log the time spent as
sole manipulator of the controls as PIC.

True. As sole manipulator with the necessary category and class ratings, he
gets to log the flight, whether he is qualified to act as PIC or not.

Pilot B is current and has the required endorsements.

Since he's acting as PIC, he'd better be, and he'd better have.

Therefore he is a required crewmember

Since Pilot A cannot act as PIC, yes...Pilot B is a required crewmember.

and can log PIC.

True. But not for the reasons you've stated so far.

The only reason (in that scenario) that Pilot B is permitted to log the time
is that they are acting as safety pilot. The question of who is acting as
PIC is irrelevant. When flying in simulated instrument conditions, a safety
pilot is required, and thus invokes the "more than one pilot is required
under...the regulations under which the flight is conducted".

Being a required crewmember is not sufficient. If one is not manipulating
the controls, one must not only be a required crewmember, there must be more
than one pilot required.

Without the simulated instrument conditions, more than one pilot is NOT
required, and thus the pilot acting as PIC, though he is certainly required
(in a flight in which only one pilot is required), does not get to log the
time as PIC flight time.

This seems to me more consistent with what CJ posted

It seems to you, apparently. But it's not.

and the
above scenario is very similar to the question in the orignal post.

I'll grant you similar. But similar does not mean it is equivalent.

Pete