I don't see where it says that the airplane was deiced at all. All it says
is that the company does not use the airports deicing service.

Mike
MU-2


"Garner Miller" wrote in message
...
In article TaBqf.169597$Gd6.80548@pd7tw3no, Gary
wrote:

...there was freezing rain at the time of accident...

"We know that Navair pilots are tasked with own de-icing," Bill
Yearwood, an investigator with [the TSB]... they would not line up with
other aircraft for de-icing. They would do it themselves."

In this case I feel that this crash may have more to do with the weather
and
possibly the crews haste to get into the air.

I don't read it that way. I read it that the crew deiced themselves
properly, but it took some time to get back in the plane, get it
started up, run the checklists, and get to the runway -- more time than
the deicing fluid was effective.

I'm not sure what the intensity of the freezing rain was in the above
accident. At my company, we're prohibited from taking off with
freezing rain other than "light." And with even light FZRA, Type I
fluid (the heated stuff) only gets us 2-5 minutes of protection. And
if they even had Type IV (cold gel) available, that might only provide
5-10 minutes of protection, depending on the air temperature and the
mix ratio.

I'd bet the fluid became ineffective on the way to the runway, and with
the high wing, they couldn't see it.

Sad.

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Garner R. Miller
ATP/CFII/MEI
Clifton Park, NY =USA=
http://www.garnermiller.com/