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Old December 29th 05, 06:39 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
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Default Another ADIZ violation?

Roy Smith wrote:

GS wrote:

I'm not familiar with the area with regards to the airspace
but with the IAD and BWI Class B plus the ADIZ, it must
be pretty easy to bust with everything working.
More importantly, I don't think the guy busted ANYTHING
per 91.3. A complete electrical failure is an emergency in my
book. If I had a complete electrical failure I'd
land wherever the hell *I* felt like it as long as my
butt was safe in the end.

91.3 doesn't give you carte blanche to do whatever you want. It gives you
the authority to deviate from the rules *to the extent required* to deal
with the emergency.
What were the flight conditions? Day-VFR in a typical light plane,for
example, total electrical failure should be a complete non-event, and
certainly doesn't justify calling 91.3 into play.


correct, I'd generally consider a complete electrical failure
a major emergency as in 'get to the nearest airport ASAP and as long
as myself and my passengers will be safe." Obviously something is
seriously wrong with the plane.

Yes the plane will continue to fly and you are in Day VFR, but a "none
event?" Would you just continue to fly on as though nothing had
happened? Would you take off in the same area with your electrical
system dead (and in a plane designed with an electrical system)?
I presume you wouldn't otherwise you should be working for MX
at my flying club. (I fly the only plane online that is NOT
maintained by my club.)


So do you think the complete electrical failure did NOT contribute to
this incident? How else would you explain busting the ADIZ? Would you
consider your busting the ADIZ as a "none event?"

Gerald