This DE is actually a very nice guy... He just had to do what he had to 
do... I was too far outside of PTS and that gave him no choice... I know 
he wants me to pass and next time I'm sure I will... He called me later 
in the day to see how I was and let me know that even though busting a 
checkride is is an ego deflation it is not the end of the world... He is 
even cool enough to not charge me for either the initial checkride or 
the retake because I agreed to be his first IFR exam... He has a ton of 
Private Pilot exams behind him but I am his first Instrument ride. 
Actually the FAA examiner was very nice too.. She said she felt bad that 
I failed too and that she thought that her being there might had 
contributed to my "case of the nerves". I don't think so at all... I 
basically just plain ****ed up... No more no less.. I appreciate 
everyone support on this... I knew you all would understand... Thanks 
again. Jon 
 
A Lieberman wrote: 
 
Jon Kraus wrote: 
 
 
 
Basically just nerves mostly... A couple of things contributed to 
that. One was that I agreed to be this DE's first IFR checkride... 
that being so, we had the FAA examiner with us examining him... My 
oral was 3 hours long and this about wiped me out... 
 
 
 
Holy cows Jon, your luck must be like mine except I had a DE that had 
zillions of examinations behind him and he was accompanied by an FAA 
examiner for my VFR license.  I am not sure if you have been following 
my progress, but you, at least fared out better, as I busted the oral 
part!  I didn't even get to fly. 
 
It was brutal, as just like you, I spent a good 2 1/2 hours just on the 
oral.  I was told that because the FAA examiner was in with us, he had 
to be STRICTLY by the book.  The retake was much more relaxed (without 
the FAA examiner) and of course covered things that I missed.  Simple 
things in retrospect, but I knew my nerves took over on me.  DE said 
next time I come out, I am looking to pass you.  He felt bad, I could 
really tell. 
 
 
 
This morning we were to 
do the flight portion of the test... I had everything set up for my 
clearance and was told after take off to intercept V305 and head 
north. I was then to to hold at the WELDO intersection... I was 
thinking cool I have done exact thing several times...  What I didn't 
realize is that V305 is real close to V96 and I had tuned in the wrong 
redial on the OBS... When things didn't start centering when they 
should have I began to double check and caught my error..  By the time 
I determined what was wrong I had blown through the intersection and 
that threw me for a loop... I got confused and that is when the DE 
said that it was an unsat maneuver...   Really no excuses... 
 
 
 
Like you said, it's nerves, and call it the human factor.  Knowing you 
had done it before, you should pass with flying colors the next time 
Weldo intersection comes in your future. The whole process is nerve 
wracking! 
 
 
 
and will take responsibility... Look for my post next Wednesday that I 
passed the recheck   :-) 
 
 
 
Look forward to this! 
 
For me, I am just beginning the cross country part of my training. 
Saturday will be my first CC (MBO to MEI).  My choices of approaches are 
very limited, as I don't have an ADF and only have a VFR only GPS in my 
plane.  So for my 3 approaches on my examination, would be VOR, ILS and 
LOC approaches.  I have a DME, so that can be used in the mix (DME Arc). 
My instructor has been making me do back course approaches into JAN, 
which I have to keep saying, pull the needle in, pull the needle in. 
Really sensitive approach I have been told and experienced. So far, I 
have 72 approaches into MBO, JAN and HKS.  I think my instructor is 
looking for a "change" :-)) 
 
As far as holds, he has had me try three different times.  One time, it 
was brutal as it was 10 seconds out bound, and 1 minute 30 seconds 
inbound due to the winds aloft.  We got it on the third go round. 
 
Again, good luck on your retake.  Sounds like you've been there, so it's 
a matter of doing it, and not needing "luck" 
 
Thanks for replying! 
 
Allen 
 
 
 
 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
		 
			
 
			
			
			
				 
            
			
			
            
            
                
			
			
		 
		
	
	
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