Matt Barrow wrote:

"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
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Matt Barrow wrote:


"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
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Robert M. Gary wrote:


One one instrument proficiency check a few years ago, I had a CFII not
only
ask me to perform stalls, but also to make two steep turns, all while
flying on an IFR flight plan in IMC


Seems a bit like asking a student to practice spins on his turn from
base to final. Some things seem better to practice simulated. In my
aircraft the plane rolls over about 30 degrees in the stall and has a
pretty good nose down attitude. I wouldn't be excited to do that in
IMC.

I actually recover from stalls better under the hood than I do visually.
A stall feels much less dramatic to me when I can't see out and I tend to
respond faster and smoother than when stalling visually. I would have no
fear doing stalls in IMC with a competent instructor along.


Alas, one of the most (if not THE MOST) common forms of death in flying.

Do you have even a shred of evidence to back up this claim?


Read the stats on IFR pilots that crash while maneauverig in IMC. Second
only to VFR flight into IMC. Why do you supose that is?

Manuevering in IMC with an instructor for practice? I've rarely read of
an accident in this situation.



Steep turns in IMC is lunacy.

Sure is, if you don't know how to fly on the gauges.


Yeah...all those guys that crash, including multi-thousand hour jocks, just
incompetent as hell.

Never made any comment about folks that crashed. I was commenting about
practicing steep turns in IMC with an instructor. That was the topic of
the thread last I checked.


In IMC I'd rather follow the flight director and mine limits bank angles
to about 20 degrees.

You probably wouldn't be save in IMC without your flight director so I
think you are exercising good judgement.


You are really full of crap (putting it mildly). You're one of those
brick-brains that give GA a bad reputation, the worst of which is justified.

You pompous idiot...smarter that ASF and the other organizations and more
goddamn arrogant than the fools we deride.

Is this the best you can do?

Matt