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They lived in proximity for about 1300 years without fighting,
mostly.

They're fighting now, aren't they? Yes, I think they are, and have
been
for
quite some time now. How many Shiites and Sunnis died during the
Iran-Iraq
war?

yes, IMO becuase each wants to control the Federal governemnt that
the
US gov't is forcing in them. As a simplification, both sides would co
to their corners of the country and not fight. Oil revenue makes
thinsg
worse
and more complicated.

Umm, forcing on them? The 66% of Iraqis went to the polls and voted in
the
last election because we forced them to? What druge are you taking that
could make you so delusional?


Yup. Lots of poeple want *their* government, not the other tribes.
The evidence for this is that 4 months after the election they still
don't havea parlimentry government. Kruds, Sunni, and Shia all refule
to share.



Pakistan is primarily Shia but there have always been Sunni tribes
and
they get alond. The Islamist Taliban schools are foreign to
Pakistan
and not appreciated.

Umm, correct me when you find a mistake. The Taliban as a group,
originated in Pakistan.

No. Funded by the Wahahi out of Saudi and a very recent thing.
Thousands of taliban mosques built in the poorest parts of the planet
with billion of bucks of Saudi money via your gasoline habit, and
mine.

Omar started the Taliban out of a maddrassas in Pakistan. Fact.

But the school was funded by Saudis on Wagabi principles.



That is interesting, since people like Al-Zaqawi is Jordanian, and
many
of
the Sunnis sitting in GITMO are Pakistanis.

NW Pakistan is largely Shia but they live in close proximity.
The Taliban schools in N.W. Pakistan, taught lots of uneducated
Pakistani kids to hate Americans.

Yes they did. And thje Taliban got its sart in Pakistan, and was
supported
by the Pakistan secret service.

True, the ISI controls ****, but most Pakistanis are shia and they
have coexisted with pakistani Sunni for centuries. Afghanistan has
bits of every religion in the world since it's been on the tradinng
route since Genghis Khan and Alexander. For the most part Afghans are
very toilerant of others The Taliban and Shuria law are new to them
and not good. Again, there is peace as long as everyone stayes with
their own tribe on their own turf, etc.


There are many flavors of Islam and of the billion of them on the
planet they are not fighting each other as much as you seem to think.

Fact. There are some 20 wars today, the vast majority of which are
bing
fought against Islamic extremists.



Against Islamists, true, more or less, but for the most part these
wars are islamist against a non-islamic foe.

For the most part most Islamic sects live together in some state of
non-war unless one of them tries to take charge, etc.


Umm, "Against Islamists, true, more or less, but for the most part these
wars are islamist against a non-islamic foe."

Is that not what I said? Such are this "There are some 20 wars today,
the
vast majority of which are being fought against Islamic extremists"? In

You're right. I typed too fast.

other words, these wars are being fought against Islamicists who are
intolerant of other cultures and other religions. Some "religion of
peace", eh?


Sorry, but I disagree, more or less. When you come up with the list I
think we'll see thay can almost all be described as local
nationalistic revolts bu Muslim minorities.
Got a list of the 20? I'm not arguing but I like to see these things.

That list has been posted all over usenet, put there by myself and others.
I suggest you do a search. Having said that, it is quite easy to come up
with it own your own. Try it.

Almost all of the movements stay close to home. AQ and it's close
relatives are the exception. these local revolts can give cover and
aid to AQ, but an ignorant Maylasian villager isn't going to pass the
giggle test if he tries live in the US as an undercover terrorist.

Umm, non-sequitur, since I've suggested nothing even remotely similar to
this.

All but a couple of the people that did the bombing in the US, England
and Spain were westernized educated middle class muslims. OBL is
western-educated, as is his mentor, teh Egyptian whatsisname.

Muslims, nonetheless. "In other words, these wars are being fought against
Islamicists who are
intolerant of other cultures and other religions".