I think maybe you can in part thank me for them adding the short-shaft
simulation, I'd asked them a couple years running if they could demonstrate
it. The old sim couldnt, but they made sure that the new one at AFW could.

If you want some excitment, take their "Advanced Airmainship" course. A
whole lot of low altitude , zero airspeed autos to the ground from an oge
hover. They're really fun, but my first couple were pretty ugly.

They also do LTE from an OGE hover and that lil bit of instruction really
helped me once. I got into LTE at about 2500 ft with a cameraman in the
back while filming a stunt pilot doing his thing. I'm not completely sure
why it happened. I was within 15 degrees of being into the wind, and at a
totally reasonable power setting and OAT. All the sudden it felt like I was
in beginnings of SWP and ship rotated almost 90 degrees (even with a lot of
pedal). I got out of it fast enough that the camera operator thought I was
just repositioning for a better angle. Thanks Bell.

My 2 cents on the No-Full-Down thing is that its prob attributable to the
low intertia Robbies. They know that theres a lot of them out there, and IMO
they don't seem like theyd be all that safe at it. Esp when high hot n
heavy.

I've always wondered how the survivability of real world R22 autos stack up
against high-intertia 44s and Bells. I did a couple full downs in an 280FX
once, and they were "interesting" enough for me. The Bell 407 comes down
pretty quick too in a full down, but theres so much pitch available at the
bottom its a non-issue. I love my Jet Ranger, I spose there's sexier things
out there, but the Jet Ranger is just so well behaved. They'd mandate full
downs for everyone if the other choppers were as well behaved.

Bart

"gaylon9" wrote in message
news:GMd2g.3215$fG3.1034@dukeread09...
Just went to the 206 Bell factory refresher course at Alliance in Fort
Worth
and all the autos were to touchdown, no power recoverys.
Also did about every kind of failure I can imagine and others I never
thought of. Even did such things as high and low end governor failure only
on a simulator. Its a hoot to try to maintain control in a simulated
shortshaft failure -- gives you no power to the main rotor and full power
to
the tail rotor with the governor going nuts up and down because it can't
follow the load properly.
Gaylon
"John?] "