The 61.31 endorsements are one time and apply to operation
of a whole range of airplanes... the tailwheel endorsement
applies to a Piper Cub, a Beech 18 and a DC 3 and C 46. The
fact that a type rating is required for the C 46 and DC 3
doesn't mean that, unless otherwise covered by the
exemptions, a person applying for a type rating doesn't need
the 61.31 endorsement before the check ride.

A student pilot is covered by the solo requirements of the
90 day sign off, the 61.31 endorsement never expires and
covers any tailwheel airplane. If I was instructing a
student in a tailwheel airplane, I would make the 61.31
endorsement at the time I completed the practical test
recommendation, it isn't needed before and when the student
passes, it will be needed for the flight home.


--
James H. Macklin
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"Bob Moore" wrote in message
. 121...
| Peter Duniho wrote
|
| "Bob Moore" wrote in message
| . 121...
| Agreed. But is required training (and in particular,
training
| required by 61.31(i)) a "rating limitation"?
|
| No...Fist because it can be endorsed by an Authorized
Instructor
| and second probably because it comes under the second
part of the
| title of 61.31 which contains three distinct items:
| "Section 61.31: Type rating requirements, additional
training, and
| authorization requirements".
|
| Well, if it's not a "rating limitation", then 61.31(k)
doesn't apply.
|
| (k) Exceptions.
| (2) The rating limitations of this section do not apply
to-
| (ii) The holder of a student pilot certificate;
|
| They can't apply since a student pilot certificate
contains no ratings,
| only training endorsements.
|
| In addition, any 61.31(i)requirement for student pilots is
more than
| covered by 61.87c and 61.87n
|
| Section 61.87n: Solo requirements for student pilots.
|
| (n) Limitations on student pilots operating an aircraft in
solo flight. A
| student pilot may not operate an aircraft in solo flight
unless that
| student pilot has received:
|
| (1) An endorsement from an authorized instructor on his or
her student
| pilot certificate for the specific make and model aircraft
to be flown; and
|
| (2) An endorsement in the student's logbook for the
specific make and model
| aircraft to be flown by an authorized instructor, who gave
the training
| within the 90 days preceding the date of the flight.
|
| Bob Moore
|