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Old August 26th 04, 06:24 PM
john smith
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Dave Butler wrote:
john smith wrote:

As I understand it, you have already obtained your IFR clearance, you
are just being held for release until the other inbound/outbound
traffic is assured to be clear of the airspace. You have your IFR
clearance, you depart VFR to provide the
separation/obstruction/terrain clearance.
Similar to a VFR ON TOP clearance. You are IFR, but you are at a VFR
altitude and assume separation/obstruction/terrain clearance until
such time as you elect to operate at an IFR altitude or encounter IFR
conditions.


That's not what the snippet you posted says. Have you read it?


How about this from
http://www.faa.gov/atpubs/ATC/Chp4/atc0403.html

4-3-9. VFR RELEASE OF IFR DEPARTURE

When an aircraft which has filed an IFR flight plan requests a VFR
departure through a terminal facility, FSS, or air/ground communications
station:

a. After obtaining, if necessary, approval from the facility/sector
responsible for issuing the IFR clearance, you may authorize an IFR
flight planned aircraft to depart VFR. Inform the pilot of the proper
frequency and, if appropriate, where or when to contact the facility
responsible for issuing the clearance.

PHRASEOLOGY-
VFR DEPARTURE AUTHORIZED. CONTACT (facility) ON (frequency) AT
(location or time if required) FOR CLEARANCE.

b. If the facility/sector responsible for issuing the clearance is
unable to issue a clearance, inform the pilot, and suggest that the
delay be taken on the ground. If the pilot insists upon taking off VFR
and obtaining an IFR clearance in the air, inform the facility/sector
holding the flight plan of the pilot's intentions and, if possible, the
VFR departure time.