Andrew Sarangan wrote:
john smith wrote in news:59IWc.33911$cT6.15495
@fe2.columbus.rr.com:


Dave Butler wrote:

I've heard of VFR climbs and VFR descents while on an instrument flight
plan, but VFR departure is a new one on me. Is that published
nomenclature, or something you made up?

I typed the text from the new Instrument Procedures Handbook
FAA-H-8261-1), page 2-32, last night and posted it. It doesn't seem to
have come through. I will retype it later today and try posting it again.



Unless you are flying a DP, most departures are done under VFR - you see
and avoid obstacles instead of relying on a published procedures.

Most of my departures for flights that will conductred under IFR are done under
IFR, whether I am flying a DP or not.


I have received IFR clearances with a DP, but sometimes I have declined the
DP because I had not reviewed it ahead of time. In such cases I get a VFR
depature. But I am technically under IFR except for the departure.

How do you get a VFR departure? What is the specific request and clearance
terminology?

Do you just mean you depart VFR and then get a clearance after you're airborne?
In that case, you're not "under IFR" until the clearance is issued, technically
or otherwise.