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Old June 19th 06, 08:53 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default Overweight? Out of CG? Stalled? Too slow?

In article nospam-FE6576.19093818062006@shawnews,
tony roberts wrote:

Looks to me overloaded and out of CG.
The Oxy cylinder would be very heavy, does not appear to be strapped in
and possibly moved back on rotation. My best bet is shifting load in
overloaded aircraft. I also wonder about the position of the flaps. It
looked like a lot of flap to me. Put all of that into a high density
altitude situation and you are in a world of hurt.



Looks like 20 degrees of flaps which is normal for short-field work in a
182.

It looked to me like he lost directional control, or couldn't see well
enough to track the runway. Looks as if he comes off the right side of
the runway.

The skid looked like maybe he wasn't using any right rudder to counter
p-factor, but it's odd that he came off the right side of the
runway..you'd think he would have gone left in that case. Crosswind
perhaps?

I think it's very possible that they were under max takeoff weight, but
without knowing how high or hot they were...

Looked like the gurney and O2 tank was jammed pretty hard against his
seat back. I wonder if maybe his seat wasn't locked in and slid back if
the gurney moved aft on rotation. The time I witnessed someone do that
they were flying pretty crappy...might explain the lack of corrective
action.

Sad.