Christopher C. Stacy wrote:



The scenario I've been talking about is where you come out nowhere VFR
and tell the controller you want an IFR approach to some airport


Be careful how you word your request. If you say the above that sounds
like a request to be IFR but would still require a clearance limit,
route, altitude, etc. Saying "Approach approved" or "cleared ILS..."
does not constitute a clearance limit.